G Class Proffessional
Tahir wrote:Wonder if you could get the split rear doors on a "normal" G. Looks stunning.
Surely, it must be possible ... but it would fall into the category of special order and would likely demand a hefty deposit before they would commit to building it.
I agree that the double rear doors look better. As I've said in an earlier posting, the single rear door with spare tyre is too heavy.
It's interesting that the Australian Defence Forces (ADF) prototype pictured above actually has a single door but has a swing away tyre carrier on the RHS and a Fuel Can mounted to the door to the left. It surprised me that part of the fixing for the fuel can was straight through the standard door hinges.
FWIW
John
The latest 2010 German G Professional Pricelist is too large [2.9MB] to attach, but can be downloaded from the homepage at http://www.w463.de - click on the brochure photograph on the right towards the bottom of the page.
I can't remember where I found these, but a few more of a black Professional for you.
These are not large files, but I'm only able to add three at a time; suggestions on how to add more than three at a time please.
These links should have an over 18 rating :shock:
I noticed the one on the spanish site has a 24v power outlet, presumably this wouldn't extend to the civilian version?
I noticed the one on the spanish site has a 24v power outlet, presumably this wouldn't extend to the civilian version?
It does. Three batteries, a 24V starter and both 12V and 24V for accessories.
Wow, that's alot of batteries! Why 24v on the starter? Is there any advantage to having dual voltages? I know some of the military LR's (spit! :twisted: ) have 24v for radios. Also it looks like a euro socket, do we get 3 pin on rhd? :wink:
I wonder if it's because it's based on the military and rather convert everything they've added the 12v as an afterthought?
Why 24v on the starter?
On 24V, starting is said to be easier because of higher cranking speeds.
From basic physics: Watts = Volts x Amps.
The higher the voltage the lower the current draw for any given power output. Lower current draw leads to less heat buildup in the starter motor and wiring. Heat is bad because it increases resistance, increases battery drain, reduces cranking performance and possibly overall durability of starter motor [particularly in very cold climates where prolonged starting cycles might be needed]. Whether any of this makes much difference in our temperate climate is a moot point!
Theoretically, 36V or 48V starters would be better again, but in practice you have to balance this against the weight of the extra batteries needed and the extra cost.
By the very same principles 24V winches are superior and more durable because they generate less heat.
Ah that makes sense then, dang those pesky germans and their german efficiency! (or should i be saying Austrian?) Anyway, thankyou, I now know almost precisely double the amount about electrics that I knew before! :lol:
Tho I dread to think what it'll cost to replace all three batteries if they were to all fail around the same time, ahem. Cheers Rick appreciate the enlightenment!
Is there any advantage to having dual voltages? ... Also it looks like a euro socket, do we get 3 pin on rhd?
You could plug in a demountable winch to the 24V socket and attach it to the rear tow bar when to winch you backwards when you get stuck. Otherwise I can't think of any particular advantage. The 24V kettle I have in the Pinzgauer doesn't seem to boil any faster :( As you can see from the photo', the 24V circuit is a two-pin socket. You can also get either a 12V or 24V radio for the G Professional.
Actually, you would want to run accessories from the 12V circuit. You could run the battery in the centre armrest down completely and still be able to start and drive off! I think?
There is an English translation of the German G-Class Professional .pdf available, but at 3.3MB it's too large to post as an attachment. I've printed and scanned pages 12 - 16, which detail the G 300 CDI RHD Station wagon long. That is the Euro 5 version, said to be available from May 2010 [in Germany]. NB No increase in power and torque.
Price summary [excluding VAT]: Euro 55,460
Some examples of optional extras -
Double rear doors Euro 600
Powered and heated mirrors Euro 540
Fog lamps front Euro 170
Central locking Euro 390
Air conditioning Euro 1,940
C-rails and wooden floor Euro 560
Preparation for 12V radio Euro 260
Tyres 265/75R16, light alloy Euro 1,290
If anyone wants to PM me their e-mail address I will send the full G-Class Professional .pdf in English.
Rick
I have driven de PUR for a couple of hours yesterday...
It is for hardcore (rich) purists!
likes:
Very beautiful and unique...old school 461 with modern tech underneath.
extremely well built, amazing off road/travel features (extra filters, breathers, battery management system, sealed electronics etc...) very powerful engine. Steers and brakes very well.
dislikes:
it's very very very loud, spartan and uncomfortable...a standard defender is softer and less noisy. Very very expensive for what you get! (on the dash the most of the dials aren't even lit!!! you can only see your speedometer and diff locks!
G
I have driven de PUR for a couple of hours yesterday...
It is for hardcore (rich) purists!
likes:
Very beautiful and unique...old school 461 with modern tech underneath.
extremely well built, amazing off road/travel features (extra filters, breathers, battery management system, sealed electronics etc...) very powerful engine. Steers and brakes very well.
dislikes:
it's very very very loud, spartan and uncomfortable...a standard defender is softer and less noisy. Very very expensive for what you get! (on the dash the most of the dials aren't even lit!!! you can only see your speedometer and diff locks!
G
WTF ! buy as 300gtd and strip out the guts for 1/3 the cost
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