A Word of Warning

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Time to "Name and Shame" - I've just posted this same bit in the technical forum, but thought I'd put it here too under G Chat.

Please everyone, heed my warning, this charming but totally unscrupulous man needs to be stopped from ripping anybody else off:

 

Mr Peter Newman

6 Tullydraw Road

Dungannon

Northern Ireland

BT70 1RE

Email: pjnewman@sky.com

Tel: 028 8776 7709

 

I cannot advise people on this forum strongly enough to AVOID THIS SCAM MERCHANT AT ALL COSTS!  He comes across as very helpful and knowledgeable of all things "G" related, gains your trust, then you send your G off to him for work, he gives an estimate, you believe that he knows best and agree to the work, then the price goes up once he's started the work. Eventually you get your precious G back and find he's done a c**p job and the only comeback he offers is to have it back in and charge you for yet more work!!  I'm still discovering things he's done badly more than a year after I got mine back from him!

 

If you're reading this, Peter and it upsets you, please feel free to sue me - I'll look forward to putting my case in defence!

Suzie

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Good job on naming & shaming Suzie.  people like this deserve all that they get.... if you're a crap mechanic, don't try and sell your services.

 

 

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this brings back bad bad memories for me too suzie....

 

its as if i wrote this, or you stole my words !

 

rgds hus

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hus55 wrote:

this brings back bad bad memories for me too suzie....

 

its as if i wrote this, or you stole my words !

 

rgds hus

evening huss, can you give a potted history of what happened to you ?? 

 

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Hi I have to agree that Peter seems very plausible and helpful and I have received a fair few PM's off him over the years. Your warning is much needed as I have to say he spins a great yarn and despite all the news on the forum over the last year I think it would be easy to be taken in by his 'knowledge' - I certainly thought he was one of the helpful ones... My thought would be to only react to advice given in the open forums. I hope your ongoing discovery of the faults ends soon Suzie Thanks Again Simon
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Many thanks for posting this up Suzie, I hope your G is now back up and working?

Spider1V

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Was to long for this man to be shamed by the GWOA..in the meantime people were duped by him and spent lots of wasted money. It took some very unfortunate circumstances within the club to make this possible, a very sad affair indeed. The G centre was another one, then theres Max mcarthur.the biggest crook of them all.

 

 

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At long last! A victim who is not too embarrassed to let us all know what happened to her.

There are many, many more members and browsers here who have suffered the same fate.

It is time to see who has the COJONES to tell their tale.

Eddie.

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Well done Suzie.

I kept getting unsolicited emails from same person I basically ignored him as he was too far away and my issues were not that serious.

I dread to think what might have happened otherwise.

Even after it became semi-public knowledge he persisted. I passed the communications on to the "watchers"

Anyway, well done, very well done.

Ian

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Bit more info - his forum name was Fixwin38 - I understand he's been banned from posting, but there are some old posts of his still up.

Would be an idea to have a list on here of mechanics who have been dodgy?

Suzie

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Well done Suzie.

Shall make this a sticky. 

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mark wrote:

Well done Suzie.

Shall make this a sticky. 

 

Excellent yes

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Thanks for sharing Suzie.

Good idea to make "sticky" Mark.

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Mark is sticky, you say? Maybe he should have a wash then.....

No fair play, no room for vultures on the site. We could even put up with a sticky Mark....

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tbh, i brought up the crooked dealing back in 2009....when i got done !tbh i imentioed this to a few members here and the only i guy to listen to me a the time was mark vulture...[i will always respect you fo this geezer !!] and this was the reason for my absence from the gwoa from 2009 until it think 2012-13 , i cant really remember. i was one of the most active members here until 2009. anyone that can check my posts will see that i was amongst the top contributors here. i hold no grudges against anyone here as it was my own decision to send him my G. BUT I DID GET UPSET WITH LACK OF SUPPORT BACK THEN.

one of the main things this pissed me off from the gwoa was that when ever the vulture would try and lure a new victim i would have a strong dig at fixwin. but then some members would have a go at me...and say take your personal problems elsewhere... WELL F@@K this i thought....so i started to pm  EVERY new or vulnerable member here to warn them of him. i refused to make any posts here for a long long time. but i would pm anyone i thought was being lured. like spiderman [not mr v8 but the superhero i saved many members that thanked me dearly. after i left here, i noticed a decline here. less posts, less active members etc. the main G guys also seemed absent here. just a coincidence i guess. it was upsetting to see this as i made some great friendships here which still carry on today. i gradually rejoined and met some new members here over years. the gwoa is the best G club in the world. it should always be protected to stay this way. axel,

fixwin definately walked the walk and talked the talk....and thats why i sent my G to him back in late 2008..this was just before i immigrated back to n cyprus..

some of the problems he caused was a bodge up stainless steel exhaust system and condemned lpg system...fitting wrong sparks and damaging the k jetronic injection system due to backfiring lpg setup.  rpm idle was also screwed up...there was more faults too.what i paid i will not even mention. but i am glad to have got my G back. and catching flight out to ireland last minute and without notice to him and catching a coach and and cab out into the sticks of ireland on my own to pickup my G needs BALLS  [if thats what cojones mean eddie  ;) ] posting  what any member has gone through with fixwin here is the easy part.

it took a few years to sort my G out once i settled out here...a lesson well learned. nothing should stay hidden here. no secrets should be kept. we are all mates and share a passion for the G and also humanity.

 

rgds to all.

 

hus.

 

 

 

 

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Indeed a sad tale throughout. Personally I have not had business dealings with this person.

Why did people not speak up, or those who did speak up not listened to?

One could look for reasons...maybe our modern culture of keeping oneself to oneself, not wanting to upset the apple cart,  keeping the number of complaints at low frequency.

But maybe lessons can be learnt and built on for the future.

Ebay's feedback system has it's merits - gives you an idea of who you are dealing with.

I have seen other vehicle clubs' forums have entire feedback sections, telling all, good and bad.

Perhaps an idea for this forum.

Then anyone can see how many good and bad experiences have been had at whose hands.

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I come to this thread as a trader and I read the tales of woe with sadness, it's a sad testament to the way some traders behave towards their what should be valued customers. 

Hopefully fixwin38s activities will be significantly curtailed by watchful eyes in the club.  The main issue I see with awareness of sharks activities is that this thread will drift off the first page and will be all but invisible. So what can we do?  An eBay feedback system?  God I hope not, I'm an eBay trader, most people don't leave feedback even when asked my feedback is currently at 600 on sales of about 1800 I've got 4 negatives only one of which I would hold my hand up to. But the negatives are what people focus on. So any means of flagging up traders that have let customers down is great, but should promote honest, reliable traders that should be congratulated and supported. Be vigilant for the bad guys but promote the good guys so that newbies can know who they should be using.

Where would you go to if you needed YOUR G fixed, 

Gordon

 

 

 

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I was Pm'ed by fixwin a few years back when I first started reading and posting on this forum.. At the time I was doing careful research on the marque.. And was not in a position to buy.. Although I got a lot of invites to view cars in Ireland Is there anything to stop him re-signing with a différent user name? I tend to be self sufficient.. Fixing m'y G.. Preferring to fix things myself.. Or use a local mechanic I know.. My sympathies to the few people who have been conned.. It's more than just.a car.. It's a family member.. Perhaps in the members area a section on people to avoid? John
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Hi john exactly my point, you look after your own G which is great. Flag up the rogues in the members area, also great. But if you can't repair your G yourself  I ask again who will repair/ service it for you, your local garage that's never seen a g before? Your local MB if you've the cash but they probably haven't seen a G either.  Do a search on Google? That brings up the club at P1 so we should be pointing G owners members and non members at reliable businesses. 

Gordon O

 

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  this is always going to be difficult

   even JESUS GETS BAD PRESS FROM US    ANCIENT ALIENS FOLLOWERS  

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G-Restorations wrote:

 

I come to this thread as a trader and I read the tales of woe with sadness, it's a sad testament to the way some traders behave towards their what should be valued customers. 

Hopefully fixwin38s activities will be significantly curtailed by watchful eyes in the club.  The main issue I see with awareness of sharks activities is that this thread will drift off the first page and will be all but invisible. So what can we do?  An eBay feedback system?  God I hope not, I'm an eBay trader, most people don't leave feedback even when asked my feedback is currently at 600 on sales of about 1800 I've got 4 negatives only one of which I would hold my hand up to. But the negatives are what people focus on. So any means of flagging up traders that have let customers down is great, but should promote honest, reliable traders that should be congratulated and supported. Be vigilant for the bad guys but promote the good guys so that newbies can know who they should be using.

Where would you go to if you needed YOUR G fixed, 

Gordon

 

 

Gordon has a point. I think as a result of the fixwin38 mess, lessons have been learnt and there are now terms and conditions that you have to sign up to on this website. Joe made some valiant attempts to stand up and be counted, which resulted in some rather sad consequences. Hopefully people like this man won't be able legally now to do what he did.

Came across as terribly helpful then started trying to persuade you to either sell to him or buy from him. Got my back up and made me feel very uncomfortable so I blocked his emails.Just a shame he appears to have managed to fleece other people. Trouble is, initially he came across as very plausible

 

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I still think a feedback system is the way to go.

It shows a track record.

If I need to buy something online, I always prefer ebay, by a ratio of probably 100:1

Because I can instantly see, from their feedback, the kind of person I am dealing with.

It tells me if they speak the truth, if they are honest, if they will send what I order quickly, if they will refund my money if something is not what it should be and if they communicate with their customers.

And if I want to do business with someone on here, I would want to know how they have treated their previous customers.

We are all humans, we all have bad days, nobody is perfect, but what is important is how the paying customer gets treated before, during and after the transaction.

And a LOT of other people will want to know the same.

That will mean the good guys get rewarded with more business and the bad guys to go under.

That is how it should be.

It is how it used to be in the old days when everyone knew everyone.

"word of mouth" just needs to be facilitated by way of a feedback platform.

And just to say, I have direct personal experience of this.

As per my post in the member's only chat, my ebay selling account stands at over 3000 feedback, 100% positive, top-rated seller status. And that with selling used car parts and all their variations, difference of opinion, etc.

It is dead easy if you treat your customers like your best friend.

And the people on here who do just that, those are the people who we all want to know about.

Put up a feedback section, I say!

So that for once and final, everyone can see beforehand who to trust and who not.

 

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Derek.

It is a shame that you feel let down by the club. Some of what you say in your post deserves clarification in this forum. 
I agree that it would appear on the outside that nothing was being done about Fixwin. In fact there were many months of behind the scenes wranglings on that subject among the committee members in the second half of 2013 and well in to early 2014. The frustration felt by some committee members had reached boiling point by last Christmas. Some of that frustration related specifically to the snippets of news we were able to pick up about your car. 
There were consequences. The chairman decided to resign due to the stress of the whole situation. Legal advise received at the time indicated that Fixwin should not be named by anyone other than a victim. Many warnings were issued about unscrupulous traders on the forum. Members were reminded repeatedly that they should contact their local area rep with questions. Fixwin was eventually banned from this forum but is known to be lurking here under pseudonyms (Hello Peter).
Your posts in 2013 about Fixwin were all glowing, so much so that some of us thought you may have been in fact a Trojan Horse. We suspected that he was using you to try to get someone to do/say something actionable. Obviously we misunderstood your situation but we did not have much concrete information to base assumptions on.
However efforts were made behind the scenes to contact you which were ultimately successful, in so far as you were introduced to people who were not going to rip you off. I believe you are very happy with both your (properly) modified G's.
Members should ask their club for help and information, via the open forum or privately through their area rep. I have been able to warn many potential victims when contacted by them.
A club such as ours needs it's members to share their experiences and information for it to be worthwhile for all.
Eddie.
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derekfinn wrote:

Sad. It makes me angry to read through this thread. I posted pictures of my G Wagon on the back of the pick up truck to Northern Ireland and I deliberately named who it was going to in advance on the basis that the 'expert' contacted me through the GWOA forum and if there was a known issue that surely someone would warn me. This was August 2013 - the post still exists in the archive. What f**king annoys me is that NO one pointed out any risk to me as a fellow member although some here knew I was putting my vehicle at risk and decided to stay quiet for whatever reason. 

I am genuinely sorry for Suzie and Hus. 

Eddie - it's not 'balls needed' to get other 'victims' to tell their story and 'not to be embarrassed'. - I was let down by the GWOA who permitted individuals to use this forum for business purposes including portraying or alluding to GWOA endorsement and by a couple of colleagues on the forum who kept quiet on a known risk. A member did contact me weeks after I'd already handed over the vehicle and mentioned to me the risk - apparently well known in GWOA circles,  and thought he 'should' mention it to me. 

Shortly afterwards, I got mine back by driving across the border in a southern registered car (not by myself), through some notorious sections of Co Tyrone and South Armagh - previously known as 'bandit country' and I got my vehicle back. The brief was to not leave without getting the vehicle back. (I'm not recommending this approach to anyone unless you have the means to see it through)

Yes I'm 'embarrassed' that I got caught or nearly got caught depending on your perspective. But I'm more disappointed that certain members here kept quiet when I could have been warned. I have a small collection of friends here in this forum built up over time that I can trust - but I generally keep to myself specifically because of the early experience. These real friends helped me out and now, more than a year later, I drive a fantastic G Wagon. But the episode has left a sour taste for me... 

I'd recommend the GWOA to new members but only with extreme caution. Its not really a club and the support is very very limited in terms of scrutinizing membership. Someone mentioned sharks in a different but related post. 

 

I think your post deserve a second thought !! 

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Derek and all

You were never alone, ever.

I think the honorable member from Southern Ireland has summarised what was going on in the back ground, while change is good, it can take some monumental effort in the shadows. Things are changing, for the better I may add, people are working hard in their spare time to prevent such things happening again or at least cut down on the reoccurrence of such things. At the end of the day we are urging all members to take care, the stickies, posts and advice is always here but as there is money involved some people will stoop to  the lowest tricks things to ensure their revenue stream is 'maintained'.

Having had a little input into this from both a professional and personal level, I really do sympathise with the issues some members have had to undertake to get their pride and joy back on the road, but hopefully that is now all behind us and we can move on. As a group we can avert this type of behavior, but, again I urge any new members, members of the public or someone interested in looking for a G - RTFA - It could save you a fortune!laugh

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I have been saddened to read all this about Peter as I bought a 280GES from him 6  years ago and it has been brilliant, completely reliable, starts instantly even if not run for a month, purrs along beautifully, and never fails its MOT.  I wonder if age has something to do with the problems alluded to in the foregoing posts -  I think the 38 in fixwin38 is his year of birth which puts him well past retirement age and even without cognitive impairments none of us are going to be the sharpest tool in the box at that age.  It's probably time to call it a day.

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It's great to see a thread like this.

There is a lot of fear amongst forum owners with regard to name and shame. Some very large forums just ban ANY shaming .. Which is such a pity , as these con artists thrive in that sort of environment. 

 

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FANTASTIC POST SUZIE !!! angel

I have been involved in this saga for 12 months plus, i have seen the hard work, the passion and the fall out that this has caused with the GWOA (And unfortunately still does) and the massive efforts that were taken to try to do something with this... by 3/4 very determined individuals.

Old friendships destroyed, and long service ruined and for what, a person that cares for no one?

I purposely kept a low profile during the end of 2013 as this blew up into a huge debate and worse... my Xmas was not going to be ruined like a few other good GWOA members were!

Those of you that know or have met me will know that my style is not to judge and not to label people until firm proof is out there... and to treat people with respect as your would like until you are proved to be otherwise...

Unfortunately until brave people like Suzie stick their heads above the parapet with actual facts and experiences then these things would have continued...

I know first hand from phone and email conversations during mid 2014 of many more than just Suzie, at least 10 more that have tales of woe at least as hard to stomach as Suzie's, probably nearer 20 if i sat and listed them all...many that are still ongoing, not in a way of follow up or comeback, but i an way that involves heartache, stress and financial burdens that should not exist, G's are special vehicles, and because of that are not always the cheapest things to run normally, let alone to fix things that you have already paid to fix once.

Some may think "buyer beware" and i admit in some instances i have heard of my first thought was this, it is not until you read other posts here and concentrate of the special nature of the vehicle that you appreciate how hard it is to get a good, reliable and trustworthy person to work on your truck that has both done that before and knows what they are doing!!! To put your faith and money into an expert is what most of us would do.....its a bitter pill....one that too many have swallowed already!!

Half if not more do not use this forum, at least not often anyway and even if they did people do not always heed advice, what is one persons word against another? Especially when one person is so convincing and "helpful"? I am aware now also of many many more that have had contact offering services etc, even when they had never posted requiring any! A prowler was in our midst and in hindsight one that not too many suspected...

I for one am glad this is out in the open and "real",  perhaps this will bring the whole sorry issue to and end.... for the future if not those still counting the cost.

"Consur" it is kind of heartening to hear a good story in connection to these events, if there are more then yes they should also be heard, i fear however that you have been a lucky one and you should count your blessings as it were.

Derek, apologies to you, i like Eddie had the same impression and caution, even whilst "sat on my fence" my posts and input brought me back to the same feeling as Eddie was feeling at the time, even face to face in May i was still very cautious, i also now understand why you came across like that at the time, hindsight is a wonderful thing, maybe next time our paths cross things will be different...?

SUZIE ROBS, hats of to you, not easy and not pleasant, but you have proved that you are an upstanding citizen and one that a club like the GWOA needs and i thank you personally for that.

Gav

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derekfinn wrote:

Sad. It makes me angry to read through this thread. I posted pictures of my G Wagon on the back of the pick up truck to Northern Ireland and I deliberately named who it was going to in advance on the basis that the 'expert' contacted me through the GWOA forum and if there was a known issue that surely someone would warn me. This was August 2013 - the post still exists in the archive. What f**king annoys me is that NO one pointed out any risk to me as a fellow member although some here knew I was putting my vehicle at risk and decided to stay quiet for whatever reason. 

I am genuinely sorry for Suzie and Hus. 

Eddie - it's not 'balls needed' to get other 'victims' to tell their story and 'not to be embarrassed'. - I was let down by the GWOA who permitted individuals to use this forum for business purposes including portraying or alluding to GWOA endorsement and by a couple of colleagues on the forum who kept quiet on a known risk. A member did contact me weeks after I'd already handed over the vehicle and mentioned to me the risk - apparently well known in GWOA circles,  and thought he 'should' mention it to me. 

Shortly afterwards, I got mine back by driving across the border in a southern registered car (not by myself), through some notorious sections of Co Tyrone and South Armagh - previously known as 'bandit country' and I got my vehicle back. The brief was to not leave without getting the vehicle back. (I'm not recommending this approach to anyone unless you have the means to see it through)

Yes I'm 'embarrassed' that I got caught or nearly got caught depending on your perspective. But I'm more disappointed that certain members here kept quiet when I could have been warned. I have a small collection of friends here in this forum built up over time that I can trust - but I generally keep to myself specifically because of the early experience. These real friends helped me out and now, more than a year later, I drive a fantastic G Wagon. But the episode has left a sour taste for me... 

I'd recommend the GWOA to new members but only with extreme caution. Its not really a club and the support is very very limited in terms of scrutinizing membership. Someone mentioned sharks in a different but related post. 

I am very sad you feel like this Derek about a club run by volunteers in their spare time for enthusiasts, surely until there are known facts posted and circulated in the public sphere by an individual that can give a first hand account, then is anything that is posted not just gossip and hearsay?

Please forgive me as i am in no way being pedantic or argumentative but as a person with first hand experience i do not recall (and please correct me if i am wrong) where you yourself posted any warnings in the public domain on the forum about your situation or treatment and also if you had warned any other members thru electronic contact or telephone of the pitfalls?  I understand that Suzie is the first person with an actual first hand account to provide any factual information?

My apologies if that causes any offense,  none was intended from me,  although i could understand how some people that have been fighting this corner could take offense at your post. I do however obviously take into massive consideration the personal stress and financial shortfall you have unwittingly and unfairly had to endure that would make you feel though you have been wronged, i just struggle with the fact that it is the helpful volunteers fault and not the man who is the root cause of all this?

Obviously this is just my own personal view point....

I did used to wonder why at the AGM's,  when it came time for voting of positions and new volunteers, most present looked at the floor for 2 minutes, i kind of understand now and highly commend those that look up and put their hands skywards... it is easy in life to judge and comment, far harder to stand up and be counted...

Gav

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Hi Suzie,

I have had some dealings with fixwin as well, and I commend you on posting up your bad experiences. This is what the forum should be about, people giving feedback on their experiences. I have had some good and some not so good experiences in my dealings with the same gentleman.

He only lives a few miles from me, and when I went to purchase a G-Wagon I couldn’t believe my luck when I checked out the GWOA website and saw that I had such a helpful expert on G-Wagons live so close by. When he sold me the personal G-Wagon of another locally renowned Independent G-Wagon expert, that had been completely restored for himself to an extremely high standard, (“all the work had been done”) for only £5500, I thought the Gods were smiling down on me and that I was truly blessed.

Unfortunately, I had lots of problems and there was no guarantee with the truck, but fixwin always bent over backwards to get work done and accommodate me.

The customer experience with these guys was good, and a lot of the problems I had with my G-Wagon were down to pure bad luck (according to fixwin). The person they had commissioned to respray the G-Wagon before I got it had made a mess of it and all the rust appeared again after just a few weeks (it obviously wasn’t their fault and they are not going to use him again). The new clutch that fixwin informed me had been fitted to it just before I bought it, failed. The new wiper spindles that had been fitted to it must also have been faulty (to list but a few examples of my bad luck)

I acknowledge that in some instances the service fixwin offers is second to none. Any time I had a problem I just left the truck to fixwin and he would leave it to the garage in Ardboe, get it fixed and collect it again. (Chargeable service but very handy) When the truck was being fixed, they would also fix loads of other things that I hadn’t even noticed were wrong with it! Luckily for me they ran a G-Wagon scrap yard and were able to supply the parts cheaply. They always looked after me with labour prices, because I was so unlucky and they were trying to help me in my plight. As we all know G-Wagon parts increase in price the older and more ‘run in’ they get. That’s why the price of parts sourced from fixwins scrap G-Wagons are generally more expensive than the new parts I can now get with the help of GAV and other members of the club.

As far as labour charges were concerned, they were more or less in line with what the Lexus main dealer in Belfast would charge for servicing or working on my car, so I was happy enough with this. I suppose they could keep costs low by using the second hand parts, not giving any silly guarantees on their work and keeping the paperwork to a minimum.

I eventually stopped using this outfit when I was charged £580 to supply and fit a second hand clutch after the new clutch fitted to the vehicle before I bought it broke.

As I say, my issues were just bad luck, however my luck improved dramatically after I stopped using fixwin et al and began using the GWOA club resources for parts and advice.

 

All in all though, this will be the first & last G-Wagon I will ever own. Decent enough of fixwin though, he did offer to resell the vehicle for me on numerous occasions without commission. (After he does some work to it first to get it into a good saleable condition to get me the best price)

For various reasons I will not go into, I didn’t take him up on his offer.

I cannot help thinking the ownership experience with my Lexus and Landcruiser (Landcruiser purchased after the G-Wagon as I needed a reliable 4WD something the G-Wagon isn’t) has been much more pleasant, but their owners clubs are not anywhere near as good as this one.

Regards,

 

Colm

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Terrible story, but nicely written Colm.

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Colm.

IMHO a well maintained W460 is the most reliable vehicle out there. During 8 years of ownership and heavy use mine has never left me at the side of the road (or in a field, or anywhere else). In 2012 I drove 10,000km to the Sahara and back. I broke a window winder handle.

Regular preventative maintenance is what's needed. If your Wagen was in and out of the experts shop as often as it sounds like, it should be fit to drive around the world.

But then again...

Thanks for your input. Very witty under the circumstances.

Eddie.

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Well done Colm and thank you for you view point and gracious humour blush

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Yep your right Gav. No offense taken by any of the comments. I don't blame anyone except myself. That reality is a bitter bill to swallow...

Perhaps more important that the association learns from this episode and it doesn't happen to someone else ?

Best Regards

Derek

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no names mentioned but an old friend of mine and also member emailed me today and remembers the shit i went through at the time.

and he also mentioned that i wasnt backed up by anyone here except by a mere few...

hence my long absence.....:(

 

MY DECISION OFCOURSE AND THIS WAS MY OWN FAULT FOR FALLING IN THAT TRAP. I AM NOT BLAMING ANYONE. BUT.......

i have no guilty concoincence as i believe i saved quite a few non/new members. but i am sorry i couldnt warn anyone else..

anyway lets look forward and  grass up anyone thats gonna try and do  anyone over. 

 

rgds hus

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Horrible stories all round

I used to run a garage for my boss and we did ok but times moved on and now i do a different job

Why are people such money grabbing twats and many dont have a clue even about basic mechanics

G wagons are easy to work on which adds to the injury

They are agricultural and robust and its all nut and bolt fittings, Some jobs are granted a pain to do but not too bad just time consuming, Good job i like messing now i dont fix cars everyday

People should stick together and anyone who does a poor repair should be named if they offer no help to fix the issue

We used to let people stay and watch their cars repaired and a lot did to see what was involved, If anything went wrong they could see what we were dealing with and understood

No One stopped for a full engine rebuild though lol

A good job is not mentioned but one slight thing and its all round the town after a drink in the pub

Prime example

Guy brings car in and it fails on dodgy light switch, no headlights

Hes short on money so i said i can try to repair switch. Did this and charged him 20 quid

Next year for mot switch still good

2nd year switch breaks again, Can you fix it again, No im afraid i had to glue it back together and cant get it apart again

Just do the jobs and fit a new switch. I did and the switch we let him have for trade at 94.56. He went ballistic and said he would never use us again. We got slated. How can you win?????????

You give help and get stung

The difference with the issues  here seems no one cared in the first place they just wanted to take money and run. I feel sorry for you, and also you had no help or no warning but the balls to tell everyone. This needs to change on here

Best solution is to open up a g wagon garage, Theres enough of us on here who know what we are on about but i have not the funds to do it. Any ideas as we have a top parts person to assist. Proper repairs at a good price. Cant guarantee secondhand parts though. How hard can it be???. Very difficult as we all live so far apart but it could be done

How cool would that be The g wagon epicentre of the world in uk with updates on here all the time who could do wrong

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This is a sad post, and apologies to Huss, I did think he was full of shit at the time of his fallout with Peter.

 

I have done quite a bit of business  with Peter, and was always happy with the service. I have bought 2 cars through him and he sourced another 1 for me for export. He has also asisted me with a troublesome 617 turbo.

 

It just goes to show, things aren't always what they seem.

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Any good landrover series or 4x4 mechanic or garageshould be safe enough. Bring info from here and your own knowledge. My mechanic done front axel bearings and drive boot rubbers...for 350 euro for example. Hates seeing me coming though!!
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thanks for the late late reply christo.. and also for speaking your mind mate !  this is what i have always admired about you.

but at the time when you you thought i was a lying c@@t , i thought what a w@@er  these blokes are .. :)))

 

but hey, what the heck. i lost alot of dosh but gained alot of experience. no use kicking up any dust about what happened then. i will say again though that  wish i was taken more seriously...

 

rgds hus

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a  460 swb was delivered back in so called 'perfection' condition from this 'g specialist' the pictures of the terrible welding and shoddy repairs have already been on a thread from early this year .

 the heater motor had been sent out to the 'customer' wired up backwards so it sucked air out of the cabin and blew it out of the bonnet top grill -  nice touch - 'perfection'

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axel wrote:

a  460 swb was delivered back in so called 'perfection' condition from this 'g specialist' the pictures of the terrible welding and shoddy repairs have already been on a thread from early this year .

 the heater motor had been sent out to the 'customer' wired up backwards so it sucked air out of the cabin and blew it out of the bonnet top grill -  nice touch - 'perfection'

 

He probably thought that qualified as "air-conditioning".

 

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hus55 wrote:

thanks for the late late reply christo.. and also for speaking your mind mate !  this is what i have always admired about you.

but at the time when you you thought i was a lying c@@t , i thought what a w@@er  these blokes are .. :)))

 

but hey, what the heck. i lost alot of dosh but gained alot of experience. no use kicking up any dust about what happened then. i will say again though that  wish i was taken more seriously...

 

rgds hus

you were never taken seriously Huss, because everyone thought you was so Anal about your cars that no one would be good enough..you wanted perfection..of which the end result of all your cars were. Good job for doing what you did behind the scenes.

What has always amazed me is the visual lack of support the GWOA gave on here..it took years and the eventual resignation of the Chairman to put this right, as I believe it was him who ultimately made all the final decisions, and would spout the legal reasons why we shouldn't name and shame.

 

 I doubt this will ever happen again now ,as your club now has some common sense.

 

 

 

 

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Well put Mr Perfect.

 

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ian thanks for this reply mate.

 

it was the exact reason why i pulled out the club. it really f@@ing upset me...but mate i never gave up completely. now i hope that all those guys i saved will turn up and say so...but its not important.i know i helped many....

 

the gwoa will always be a special place. because we make it this way. and from now on it will be better thanks to us all.

 

rgds and best wishes to all. especially those with 606A's.....only kidding.

 

hus

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hus55 wrote:

the gwoa will always be a special place. because we make it this way. and from now on it will be better thanks to us all.

rgds and best wishes to all. especially those with 606A's.....only kidding.

hus

... and hopefully we can now go from strength to strength! 

New, old, visitors (and maybe some existing) members should benefit from the wisdom of such members like Huss and the original author Suzi. 

Once again, many thanks for this post.laughyes

Spider1V

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Apart from this...the gwoa was Great..Ive had some of the best times of my life on trips and social events with thé guys and gals in it..i throughly enjoyed creating G wizz over the years to...sadly all good things come to an end..a Phoenix from thé fire now and wish it all the best.
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consur wrote:

I have been saddened to read all this about Peter as I bought a 280GES from him 6  years ago and it has been brilliant, completely reliable, starts instantly even if not run for a month, purrs along beautifully, and never fails its MOT.  I wonder if age has something to do with the problems alluded to in the foregoing posts -  I think the 38 in fixwin38 is his year of birth which puts him well past retirement age and even without cognitive impairments none of us are going to be the sharpest tool in the box at that age.  It's probably time to call it a day.

consur wrote:

I have been saddened to read all this about Peter as I bought a 280GES from him 6  years ago and it has been brilliant, completely reliable, starts instantly even if not run for a month, purrs along beautifully, and never fails its MOT.  I wonder if age has something to do with the problems alluded to in the foregoing posts -  I think the 38 in fixwin38 is his year of birth which puts him well past retirement age and even without cognitive impairments none of us are going to be the sharpest tool in the box at that age.  It's probably time to call it a day.

I have so many emails going back and forth from Peter Newman from before, during and after his so called refurbishment, it's not possible to post them all on this forum.  Suffice to say that he told me in one of the early emails, once he had my G in his workshop, that he was costing for "for the complete refurbishment (engineering, body and cosmetic) to bring the vehicle back as close to the original condition as possible".

So, whilst you're probably right about his age, I don't think that can excuse his behaviour, in my opinion he's simply a rogue.  No matter what his age or stage of mental capacity may be, he's still a thoroughly unscrupulous individual and I don't know how he sleeps at night.

Suzie

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Suzie,

When I came back to the GWOA after a few years break last year I bought  a few items as he always seem to have a good stock and seemed very knowledgeable and helpful for anything that you needed. My previous G needed a few teething problems sorted that I was told could easily be fixed  and shipment to could easily be arranged.

Once again sorry to hear your story…

 

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 one of the most powerful tools used by such 'predators' is to send a PRIVATE EMAIL via the forum NOT USING THE PM SYSTEM, once a person has joined the forum (but not paid the 25 pounds) they can post and pm.

You get an email via the gwoa email system and you reply (innocently) to the original sender they get your reply and at the top of the e mail is your private e mail address

you will notice on the panel where your name is that some of us have PM AND EMAIL others have just PM - this is set up in your settings for your mailbox as i understand, hence some people can be contacted via their personal private EMAIL without going through the GWOA PM SYSTEM.

personally i think this should be defaulted to PM only on gwoa system as it leaves a door open for unsolicited contact from undesirable or unwanted service providers .

 PLEASE IF ANYONE HAS BEEN GETTING PM'S OR E MAILS FROM SOMEONE THEY SUSPECT IS NOT WELCOME ON THE FORUM , YOU MUST CONTACT THE GWOA ADMIN AND YOUR REGIONAL REP.  THIS IS VITAL!!