Santa, will you put this under the tree for me?
I have been such a good girl this year!
With that roof tent (and I think bigger than standard tyres) no way will it fit under the tree. Should have no problem driving OVER it though :lol:
Oh.
I hardly noticed the tyres... still, I could sacrifice a tree (and a chimney and whatever it takes, really) if Santa would tick this off my list for me.
That G looks very familiar, but I doubt it’s for sale :lol:
sorry to be a wet blanket at this celebratory time of year, but has no one told you that Santa is not real just "pretends" :wink:
That's chris's g wagen I think
sorry to be a wet blanket at this celebratory time of year, but has no one told you that Santa is not real just "pretends" :wink:
well I dunno about you mate but Mrs Santa came to me last night, purple knickers, flashing hat wearing an Xmas pinney. Up the hammers !
sorry to be a wet blanket at this celebratory time of year, but has no one told you that Santa is not real just "pretends" :wink:
spoilsport! :evil:
Spider1V
sorry to be a wet blanket at this celebratory time of year, but has no one told you that Santa is not real just "pretends" :wink:
Ofcourse you would say its only pretend! Just like dragons and the Wales rugby team! :) :)
and what passes for the English sense of humour!
And as far as rugby goes it's likely to be 1st, Ireland, 2nd/3rd France or Wales with the "public school boys" fighting it out with Italy for the wooden spoon. Scotland 4th.
wales are going to lose the head game if any more of their players come out of the closet....
nice to see ireland on top in your list though, when they play well they are amazing.
Gareth Thomas's sexuality has been an open secret for a decade or more, hardly relevant. What is more apropo is that most of Wales long term injuries are back for the six nations and the English play with the inate grace and flair of a caravan site. :lol: Ireland are a settled side but hardly amazing, if you want to watch attractive flowing rugby there are only 2 choices, France or Wales.
the "public school boys" fighting it out with Italy for the wooden spoon. Scotland 4th.
Oh what a shame for them :lol: :lol: :lol:
(sometimes get invited to premier league football (which I detest with a vengeance) so have been dropping hints about what a party town Cardiff is and how much more entertaining Rugby is, we live in hope :lol: )
and what passes for the English sense of humour!
And as far as rugby goes it's likely to be 1st, Ireland, 2nd/3rd France or Wales with the "public school boys" fighting it out with Italy for the wooden spoon. Scotland 4th.
Actually since becoming a professional sport there has been a distinct lack of public school boys.....
Anyway since the demised of the 70's Wales has been an also ran.... just how many world cups have they won to date?
Spider1V
a distinct lack of public school boys.....
you really think so? If they're not on the pitch they are surely cheering them on. Wales have won the Grand Slam twice in the last 4 years and but for O'Gara's fine kick at the Millenium Stadium would have at least shared the title this year.
Yes "Engerland" have one one world cup but given the number of registered players they have they should win it every 4 years. But they don't. They lack, style, skill, finesse and passion. They will always have a large efficient pack but will always be generaled by the donkeys in the back division.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBY4PMk39QM&feature=PlayList&p=E4C70391B4... :roll:
a distinct lack of public school boys.....
you really think so? If they're not on the pitch they are surely cheering them on. Wales have won the Grand Slam twice in the last 4 years and but for O'Gara's fine kick at the Millenium Stadium would have at least shared the title this year.
Yes "Engerland" have one one world cup but given the number of registered players they have they should win it every 4 years. But they don't. They lack, style, skill, finesse and passion. They will always have a large efficient pack but will always be generaled by the donkeys in the back division.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBY4PMk39QM&feature=PlayList&p=E4C70391B4... :roll:
Very true Mr Wales, very true. You raise some interesting merits of both teams and are correct in your assumptions......
But
We Still have one more World cup win than wales....... :wink:
Spider1V
england have a shocking team, its an embarassment to watch them at times, specially when fat man goode is on the pitch.
ireland has hardly a large number of registered players but seems to make it work, and as for flowing rugby....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzvnexjWJYg
as for public school, our medics team has a centre that played in the same 7's team as prince william at st. andrews and a lovely chap that used to be a miner and work in the steel works till he realised he was a bit clever, and the blokes we play against in norfolk are hardly old eton lads.
Tom
england have a shocking team, its an embarassment to watch them at times, specially when fat man goode is on the pitch.
ireland has hardly a large number of registered players but seems to make it work, and as for flowing rugby....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzvnexjWJYg
as for public school, our medics team has a centre that played in the same 7's team as prince william at st. andrews and a lovely chap that used to be a miner and work in the steel works till he realised he was a bit clever, and the blokes we play against in norfolk are hardly old eton lads.
Tom
Again you make a valid comment
But we still have one more win than Wales AND Ireland :lol: 8)
Spider1V
England has hundreds of thousands of registered players, so expectations will always be high but as for the one world cup, won by a penalty kick, it was as much good fortune as anything else. The Australians played the more attractive game. This is not sour grapes, just an honest assessment. Year in year out, the French the Welsh and the Australians play with flair, the South Africans with brutality, the New Zealander's with innovative cynicism but Ingerland always play miserable 10 man rugby. It's nothing to be proud of, further more this type of negative rugby has proved to be blind alley as nearly all of England's tournaments since have amply demonstrated. The only teams to imitate this type of play are Italy and Argentina, hardly pace-setters or the future of the misshapen ball game.
In a way all that is wrong in Inglish rugby is a microcosm of Ingerlish society, an industrious and hard grafting working class (the pack) and a moronic and talentless ruling class (the backs).
England has hundreds of thousands of registered players, so expectations will always be high but as for the one world cup, won by a penalty kick, it was as much good fortune as anything else. The Australians played the more attractive game. This is not sour grapes, just an honest assessment. Year in year out, the French the Welsh and the Australians play with flair, the South Africans with brutality, the New Zealander's with innovative cynicism but Ingerland always play miserable 10 man rugby. It's nothing to be proud of, further more this type of negative rugby has proved to be blind alley as nearly all of England's tournaments since have amply demonstrated. The only teams to imitate this type of play are Italy and Argentina, hardly pace-setters or the future of the misshapen ball game.
In a way all that is wrong in Inglish rugby is a microcosm of Ingerlish society, an industrious and hard grafting working class (the pack) and a moronic and talentless ruling class (the backs).
Again, a very fair comment and a A+ for observation. One that is faultless in its summarisation as well as entertaining in its drawn paralles!
However it still does not get away from the fact, for all all the poor playing, luck, class and numbers..... England still have one more world cup win than Wales and Ireland. 8)
Spider1V
Joe, by being so repetitive you risk becoming boring :wink:
In a way all that is wrong in Inglish rugby is a microcosm of Ingerlish society, an industrious and hard grafting working class (the pack) and a moronic and talentless ruling class (the backs).
Would that be Lions led by Donkeys? :lol:
Seriously, have to agree with a very insightful assessment
At least we have some entertainment in our house hold.
3 Welsh men vs 3 English women (my wife is very vocal when it comes to Rugby :D )
Joe, by being so repetitive you risk becoming boring :wink:
Paul, somtimes one has to, to get across a point :roll: :wink:
Spider1V
Russ there's something wrong with my pm's but it means approx "live long and prosper" and it's from Gofal, a South Walian Housing Association.
watched a very entertaing Scarlets v Ospreys game this afternoon and all the missing heroes are back with the sole exception of Gavin Henson, watch out Ingerland.
there's nowt worth watching on the telly is there?
and what passes for the English sense of humour!
And as far as rugby goes it's likely to be 1st, Ireland, 2nd/3rd France or Wales with the "public school boys" fighting it out with Italy for the wooden spoon. Scotland 4th.
What on EARTH are you talking about? :D
Ooohhh... I seeeee!! The Six Nations! That pretend rugby tournament which is performed to keep you guys busy, whilst we all know that the only REAL rugby is played by southern hemisphere teams!
And even I have lived in the UK long enough to know its pointless trying to bait the English with derogatory comments: don't you know its completely and utterly ILLEGAL (punishable by eternal ostracisation) for the English to praise ANYTHING or ANYONE home grown?
Its GREAT to see some guys on here actually broke with tradition and stood up (albeit very politely) for their team!
So - just for clarity:
1. I believe in Santa
2. I'm not English (or Scottish, or Welsh) and therefore
3. I will never understand why the Brits can't just make ONE team with a choice of your (very impressive) players (from all 3 nations) and show the world what can be achieved if you stand united.
Ofcourse, I'm very happy you haven't thought of it - cos until then, you will always be trounced by southern hemisphere teams with far, far less money and far fewer development opportunities at their disposal.
And I can't comment on the English sense of humour.
:D :D :D :D
prwales wrote:and what passes for the English sense of humour!
And as far as rugby goes it's likely to be 1st, Ireland, 2nd/3rd France or Wales with the "public school boys" fighting it out with Italy for the wooden spoon. Scotland 4th.
What on EARTH are you talking about? :D
Ooohhh... I seeeee!! The Six Nations! That pretend rugby tournament which is performed to keep you guys busy, whilst we all know that the only REAL rugby is played by southern hemisphere teams!
And even I have lived in the UK long enough to know its pointless trying to bait the English with derogatory comments: don't you know its completely and utterly ILLEGAL (punishable by eternal ostracisation) for the English to praise ANYTHING or ANYONE home grown?
Its GREAT to see some guys on here actually broke with tradition and stood up (albeit very politely) for their team!
So - just for clarity:
1. I believe in Santa
2. I'm not English (or Scottish, or Welsh) and therefore
3. I will never understand why the Brits can't just make ONE team with a choice of your (very impressive) players (from all 3 nations) and show the world what can be achieved if you stand united.
Ofcourse, I'm very happy you haven't thought of it - cos until then, you will always be trounced by southern hemisphere teams with far, far less money and far fewer development opportunities at their disposal.
And I can't comment on the English sense of humour.
:D :D :D :D
:twisted: :lol: :wink:
Spider1V
"3. I will never understand why the Brits can't just make ONE team with a choice of your (very impressive) players (from all 3 nations) and show the world what can be achieved if you stand united.
Ofcourse, I'm very happy you haven't thought of it - cos until then, you will always be trounced by southern hemisphere teams with far, far less money and far fewer development opportunities at their disposal."
there are 4 nations in the British Isles. It may have passed your notice that 26 of Irelands 32 counties escaped from Westminsters rule early on in the last century and the remaining "6 counties" have been in conflict more of less ever since. Scotland and Wales are also embarking on this protracted process of escaping from the clutches of English imperial rule.
The idea of a united team is beyond ludicrous and to even suggest it shows a deep ignorance of the arrangements on these islands.
You do not disclose which part of the unfortunate "South" you come from so its impossible to contradict you but I suspect you are also poorly imformed about your own lands colonial past none of whom will bear close scrutiny, though I would acknowlege that South Africa and Australia's is appreciably worse than that of New Zealand. :roll:
prwales wrote:and what passes for the English sense of humour!
And as far as rugby goes it's likely to be 1st, Ireland, 2nd/3rd France or Wales with the "public school boys" fighting it out with Italy for the wooden spoon. Scotland 4th.
What on EARTH are you talking about? :D
3. I will never understand why the Brits can't just make ONE team with a choice of your (very impressive) players (from all 3 nations) and show the world what can be achieved if you stand united.
Ofcourse, I'm very happy you haven't thought of it - cos until then, you will always be trounced by southern hemisphere teams with far, far less money and far fewer development opportunities at their disposal.
And I can't comment on the English sense of humour.
:D :D :D :D
One team!!?Where would the fun be in that :lol:
And since when has logic applied to these things? :shock:
I’m sure from the outside looking in this place must be an enigma though. Although I do find it fun to have a poke at the arrogance mixed in with incompetence of the English I certainly don’t get or subscribe to the notion that if you’re not English you must support ANYONE who plays against them. That’s taking things too far.
One of the best internationals I’ve watched was NZ vs Wales (yes we lost) but wow what an atmosphere and what a game.
I’m sure I would enjoy South Africa v Wales as well :wink:
Russ
Scotland and Wales are also embarking on this protracted process of escaping from the clutches of English imperial rule.
The idea of a united team is beyond ludicrous and to even suggest it shows a deep ignorance of the arrangements on these islands.
The Ingerlish would be only too pleased, a reduced level of taxation, no more labour governments which bankrupt the country every time they get in, there is precoius little oil left so I think we gain more than we lose :D just think how well the bank of Scotland and RBS would have done with the Ingerlish tax payers proping them up for the next twenty years perhaps why scottish support for an independent scotland is at an all time low. :lol:
Rugby yes its boring its the way we are taught, you didn't build empires by individual thought you did it from bloody well following orders when told to and learning how to reload quickly :shock:
And we ingerlish don't do humour we just know we are superior to the celts so then we can be properly condesending about things like welsh flair, singing voices, Isteadfasts or something and sheep and of couse there culinary gift to the world welsh rarebit :D :D
Guess thas why you enjoy beating us at rubgy :)
a little too much cyprus sherry this afternoon perhaps? :lol:
there are 4 nations in the British Isles. It may have passed your notice that 26 of Irelands 32 counties escaped from Westminsters rule early on in the last century and the remaining "6 counties" have been in conflict more of less ever since. Scotland and Wales are also embarking on this protracted process of escaping from the clutches of English imperial rule.
The idea of a united team is beyond ludicrous and to even suggest it shows a deep ignorance of the arrangements on these islands.
You do not disclose which part of the unfortunate "South" you come from so its impossible to contradict you but I suspect you are also poorly imformed about your own lands colonial past none of whom will bear close scrutiny, though I would acknowlege that South Africa and Australia's is appreciably worse than that of New Zealand. :roll:
Wow! I am indeed INCORRIGIBLY ignorant and I stand duly corrected!
There I was, thinking we were talking about rugby. You know, the sporting game where men with a common goal unite in a team and pit their strength and skill against another team, with the object of scoring the most points?
I really, really, really didn't know it was all about making a POLITICAL STATEMENT about imperial rule or a colonial past. (If I did, I would have fallen asleep from sheer boredom ages ago).
Just thinking about it, gives me BRAIN ACHE! Can you imagine the crisis that would ensue if the Springboks were motivated by the past of the apartheid era - or the All Blacks and Wallabies with the historic issues surrounding the Maori and Aborigine peoples!
Anyway, what do I know anyway! I'm a girl, and I'd much rather be shopping, or thinking of ways to persuade Santa to let me have what I want.
However - I promise to try and think a little bit harder, each time I watch rugby from now on.
Just don't expect too much! Its hard enough concentrating on the game, when there's so many angry, tough, sweaty men with big muscles and attitude to keep track of.
PS: Good luck with trying to contradict me. I'm not even sure I have a point MYSELF sometimes - how YOU would keep up, I have NO idea.
to all the colonials, principalities and annexed countries, please understand these following facts;
1. Largest empire - ever (well until the Chinese get into gear)
2. Largest, most common speaking language - ever (ditto)
3. The inventors of such games as football , cricket rugby, tennis etc.. that's why we suck at them - we have already 'been there, seen it and done it - now out source the T shirts to China)
4. The bedrock of most fair and legal laws/courts
it does irk me when people bash the public schools and dig at the English, when in reality it was these people who went out and help run, establish and administer the empire, which today gives us (all be it a small place) a place at the G8 conferences and at least have a say in how the world is run!
Yes this small isle of 'Englishmen', 'shop keepers','Miners' and 'Toffs'. But it was this country that held back European domination throughout the 14,15,16,17,18,19 and 20th century's. Explored new world, gave us what we have to day.
But could we have done it with out Welsh, Irish or Scottish blood? I doubt it, so remember you Scots... we gave you your independence, you welsh your assembly rooms and you Irish...... well I'll get back to you on that, seemed to have a sight hiccup on that! :oops:
But you are part of the same land mass, and which ever way you look at it in times of need we can stand, fight and die together. So remember this one thing We also have won the rugby world cup more than any of you!
Spider1V
Geez waaaay too serious for me :shock: and since when have facts got in the way of a good argument :)
How did it go from Santa to this :?
Does this thread now hold the record for most off topic? :lol: :lol:
Topless G's Southern hemisphere origins are still a mystery :?: . Nor does she understand my point. Australians and NewZealanders have well founded dislike of England for transportation and the potatoe famine and the Highland clearances. The Afrikaners for being forced from Cape Colony into the wastes of the Transvaal then to have the wealth of this land stolen by Cecil Rhodes and his ilk. However oppression of the Welsh, Scots and Irish started as early as the 12th century and is on going, yes its far more subtle now than it was in the 19th century but it still exists and will continue to so as your (Topless G) mindset demonstrates.
As for this becoming a rambling discussion away from "G" wagens of course it is, but g-wagen owners are not conformists it's the thinking persons form of transport. If we didn't think dare I say it we would all be in Land Rovers or at least the most devotedly "English" would :wink:
But I LOVE English men! They're clever and cultured and polite and serious and generous and beautiful and fun and funny and loyal...
Santa's English and I simply ADORE him!!
How can ANYONE bear a grudge that's so old, its crumbling at the sides and hardly recognisable for all the dust that's settled on it!
Mr Wales... - its certainly VERY entertaining to have illicited such a fiery response from you --- You're clearly very passionate about your views -- and that is ALWAYS a good thing!! Just don't forget to have some fun on the way too.
You have to forgive us children of the colonies, for having gotten rid of the chip on our shoulder a few generations ago. Perhaps its cos we needed our shoulders, after gaining independence, to build a future and deal with adversity... AND SO WE CAN SCRUM BETTER!
Its also hard to remember misery, when you're living in a sunny, happy place - so much FUN to be had! :lol: :lol: :lol:
We're all proud and deeply greatful for the blood and tears that our ancesters spilt, to make us into independent nations.
But it would be ABSOLUTELY HYPOCRITICAL, not to be greatful too, for the English (& French & Dutch & Spanish), who put us there in the first place!!
*********
PS: This is not the time and place, and I haven't had enough wine to continue this discussion -- but I take serious issue (in a fun and 'lets do this again some time' way) with your typically COLONIALIST (and grossly inadequate) take on our histories.
With quintessential BRITISH arrogance, you sweep across our pasts, in a way that could only come from IMPERIAL HISTORY TEXTBOOKS, purporting to be an expert, showing a shocking disregard for the REAL history, which makes us who we are, respectively, Kiwis, Aussies and South Africans.
You are opressed only by the limitations of your own mind.
***********
Geez waaaay too serious for me :shock: and since when have facts got in the way of a good argument :)
But this is GREAT!!!
I haven't had this much fun since.... HIGH SCHOOL!!!!
Should CLEARLY have spent more time arguing with the boys!
**
How did it go from Santa to this
Are you kidding me? Its all Santa's fault. If he'd delivered me the present I wanted for Christmas - I wouldn't even be sitting here! Sooooooo many better things to do!
Still patience is a virtue and all that... just entertaining myself in the meanwhile.
Don’t worry I wasn’t suggesting stop but to use your words I had certainly had too much wine by 11pm for such deep stuff :D
But just to throw some petrol on the fire it does amaze me the rose tinted glasses people choose to look through when they talk about the British Empire.
Would that be the one that was created by a bunch of mercenaries, private armies, greedy and ruthless businessmen? King and Country had very little to do with it.
Are we proud that we invented concentration camps?
There quite a few “little hiccups†left behind in numerous other Colonises unfortunately.
See it for it is but to suggest we get in to the G8 because of this is pushing reality a little Spider :)
How could we hold back European domination from the 12th century onwards, they had sorted the English out in 1066 :twisted:
Russ
PS yes there are lots of better things to be up to than this. Off to play in the snow now.
Somewhere hot and dry would be better but ah well
to all the colonials, principalities and annexed countries, please understand these following facts;
1. Largest empire - ever (well until the Chinese get into gear)
2. Largest, most common speaking language - ever (ditto)
3. The inventors of such games as football , cricket rugby, tennis etc.. that's why we suck at them - we have already 'been there, seen it and done it - now out source the T shirts to China)
4. The bedrock of most fair and legal laws/courts
it does irk me when people bash the public schools and dig at the English, when in reality it was these people who went out and help run, establish and administer the empire, which today gives us (all be it a small place) a place at the G8 conferences and at least have a say in how the world is run!
Yes this small isle of 'Englishmen', 'shop keepers','Miners' and 'Toffs'. But it was this country that held back European domination throughout the 14,15,16,17,18,19 and 20th century's. Explored new world, gave us what we have to day.
....
But you are part of the same land mass, and which ever way you look at it in times of need we can stand, fight and die together. So remember this one thing We also have won the rugby world cup more than any of you!
Spider1V
Spider1V -- LOVED IT!!!
Couldn't go without telling you that I AM PRINTING THIS OFF AND FRAMING IT as a rare example of an Englishman actually OPENLY and without begging his pardon, BOASTING about being English!
Where will it END? Who knows, we might even see some English flags being flown anywhere other than on a sporting field. God forbid! There may even be some loud celebrations on St Georges day!
:lol: :lol:
. . .
a little too much cyprus sherry this afternoon perhaps? :lol:
Maybe Bulgarian wine perhaps??? :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v439zTOJVho
my guess is the RSA :lol: :wink:
Spider1V -- LOVED IT!!!
Couldn't go without telling you that I AM PRINTING THIS OFF AND FRAMING IT as a rare example of an Englishman actually OPENLY and without begging his pardon, BOASTING about being English!
Where will it END? Who knows, we might even see some English flags being flown anywhere other than on a sporting field. God forbid! There may even be some loud celebrations on St Georges day!
:lol: :lol:
Credit where credit is due Joe, G Day/John etc. English Nationalism has been hi jacked by the knuckle draggers at one end of the spectrum and the politically correct loon’s at the other end for too long. Chin up and all that :lol:
PR wales no sherry just a desire to do some fishing and see the response :D almost as easy as mackeral fishing!!!
But on a serious note I do get deeply saddened that anyone (not on this forum were a bit if debate and good natured banter is taken for what it is but in wider society) who wants to stand up for England cannot appear to do so without being associated with facists who have taken over the flag away from sporting events. What maddened me most was the BNP in the recent european elections with there WW2 backdrops and "our good old troops" etc, when in reality we the british isles and the commenwealth countries (oh and the americans but only when pushed) were fighting to rid europe of a facist leader.
Won't start on the empire debate as we could go on for weeks about the good and damage caused through that episode in history.
And for the avoidance of doubt I do quite like the celts really with two notable exceptions when playing rugby against them and Andy Murray who has the temerity to say he will cheer for anyone playing against ingerland and then expects our unwavering support at Wimbledon, plank!
caught me then, hook line etc :lol:
Come out of the closet Topless G you are a South African aren't you :?:
caught me then, hook line etc :lol:
Come out of the closet Topless G you are a South African aren't you :?:
Don't know don't care - obviously a woman with good taste! :wink: :lol: 8)
Spider1V
I'm reading this, sitting in a chalet in France, sipping wine, looking at the fantastic scenery,"vive le France" and laughing at the ladies comments, boys she's just made you look stupid, salut madam.
Did someone say Spanner A??? was back Lol
I have been such a good girl this year!
sounds like my kind of girl 8)
sounds like my kind of girl 8)
Really???
Well, perhaps you could put in a good word with Santa for me?
(I know Christmas is over, but what with postal strikes and the credit crunch, one must give the man a few weeks grace.)
I'm not asking for much...
1. 1 x Silver G-Wagen with rooftent and tyres that could cross any terrain.
2. 1 x English G-Wagen owner that can fix lots of things and doesn't mind sharing his rooftent on occassion and that can make a camp fire.
3. 90 days of wild adventure, danger and excitement, travelling across Africa. **
Not asking much at all!
** With the option to extend for further good behaviour :D
Well spotted Ian.
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