Gelandewagen Enthusiast's Survey

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Hello GWOA Friends!

Over on the P3 Forum on which some from here are good enough to post, a short Survey was proposed to gather some information from Owners/Enthusiasts. Even though the survey will stay up indefinitely, the first place the data is intended for use is in Graz to present to MB. The countdown timer is as of this posting, so take the survey soon!

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If you have questions or concerns, post them or email me direct!

This explanation is per Inkblotz on P3 who's idea this was:

Hello all you G-Wagon enthusiasts owners present, past, and future. With the recurring threat/hint from Mercedes Benz every few years or so regarding discontinuing the G-Wagon. I thought the 30th anniversary of the G event would be a good time for us as a group to speak up and tell Mercedes that we are dedicated to the G and want to see it hang around for another 30 years. And since we will have representatives from the United States and beyond in Graz for the event, I felt that we could present MB with a little something that helps to profess our dedication.

What we are proposing is that we put together a list of all the G-wagon owners and enthusiasts past, present and future to let Mercedes know that the G has quite a following and take the opportunity to express our desire for them to provide additional versions of the G that we would like to see here in the US as well as requests from those in other countries. SWBs, Diesels, pickups, cabriolets, 461s, etc...

This list will not have addresses (other than the country of origin) only owners names, vehicles owned past, present and future, requests for specific versions of the G etc...

I will take this information and bind it into a nice format for one of our group to present to the higher ups at the Graz celebration.

Now whether Mercedes listens or not I am not sure but I think it would be worth the effort.

Thanks for getting this started Mark!

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Welcome to the other side Drew - I filled it in and sent it to other G owners across the globe.

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Welcome to the other side Drew - I filled it in and sent it to other G owners across the globe.

Always good to be back in my (ancestral) homeland! And thank you for doing your part in the Gesearch! We are at 67 responses as of now and the the only Continent from which we have received no response is Antarctica! With 33 days until Graz, we hope for a fairly large data set! Regrettably, I have no plans to attend Graz, but Mark (Inkblotz) often on P3 is planning to try to present the data to whomever will listen! Back in the early '90s, my RRC days, I never thought there would be a vehicle more difficult to get, or desirable in the US then the Defender ... Now I would hate to see the G go the way of the RRC ... Prince Of Darkness aside, I do still love the memory of that truck. With the '08 280GE and the '02 G500(my first G) I don't believe I would ever go back ...

Again, thank you for the support in the effort and if you know of other places that might like the link to the survey or to embed the survey, just let me know here or by email. Lastly, as my brother lives in London(last 17 years) hopefully sooner then later I'll be able to join you all for an outing or two!

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You'd be most welcome - the London G owners are a fairly active bunch, even if all they get up to is pizza and coffee :lol:
The capital must have one of the highest concentrations of G's in the UK.

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You'd be most welcome - the London G owners are a fairly active bunch, even if all they get up to is pizza and coffee :lol:
The capital must have one of the highest concentrations of G's in the UK.

Most of us don't get up to nearly as much as the trucks are capable of :lol:

Pizza and coffee are good for me! I would love to see those crazy caves, Wales and the Highlands by G, too!

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You'd be most welcome - the London G owners are a fairly active bunch, even if all they get up to is pizza and coffee :lol:
The capital must have one of the highest concentrations of G's in the UK.

Oh I Don't know, the Dubai group are also quite friendly! :wink:

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Duly copied and posted on to the Mercedes-Benz Club in the UK

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Oh I Don't know, the Dubai group are also quite friendly! :wink:

Spider1V

haha certainly, just replace the pizza and coffee with sheesha and hommus, I'm sure one day we'll have a UAE G-get together...

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Just Added:

If you would like to have look at the survey data, click here. If you subscribe, you will be notified as additions are posted (hopefully every Wednesday ...)

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I was going to ask, how many so far? But you pre-empted it..thanks!
Gotta love how Mac makes things simple...time I got a new one.

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I was going to ask, how many so far? But you pre-empted it..thanks!
Gotta love how Mac makes things simple...time I got a new one.

Up to 166 now ...

Have a look at the snaps and video from todays outing ...

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That's great, in theory 166 people who spent an average of say £30k for their cars adds up to about £5m revenue in Daimler's coffers...any accountant should take note.

Great photos of the trip, and even greater is the fact the vehicles are so "old", but run great.

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Great photos of the trip, and even greater is the fact the vehicles are so "old", but run great.

The Swiss must have done nothing with that Pinz but go out for Coco and then scrub it clean with a toothbrush ... My 1980 truck has about 20,000 less miles then my '02 truck ...

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haha I hope I can find a truck as clean as that when I start up my collection in Arabia. Now that I've seen the vid..seriously is air that expensive up there, not to air down in sand! I guess same comment as Harald on P3.

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haha I hope I can find a truck as clean as that when I start up my collection in Arabia. Now that I've seen the vid..seriously is air that expensive up there, not to air down in sand! I guess same comment as Harald on P3.

Not everyone has the same level of experience no matter the vehicle. I was out again today with another Pinz guy and he was running with less air - I was down to about 22 with highway hot tires as we took off. The Pinz today didn't get stuck and we went through some more challenging stuff. I also followed without any problems ... Air is about $1/ 4min if you have to pay for it at a gas station ...

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So air IS more expensive in the States! Over here at a lot of places it's free, but where you pay, it is something like 20 pence.

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So air IS more expensive in the States! Over here at a lot of places it's free, but where you pay, it is something like 20 pence.

As with ATMs at the C Store, the air/water fills are at least $.25 if they have them. In the days that fuel was sold at a traditional "Gas Station" with a proper mechanic, the air/water was free. I gather that some smart vendor puts the machine in and splits the fees ...

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180 and counting!

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New Survey Update and we are on the verge of breaking 200 respondents ...

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New Survey Update and we are on the verge of breaking 200 respondents ...

Great work there, the comments make very entertaining reading!

Keep up the good work

Spider1V

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Having "scadded" through the comments
the comments from the USA want seem to favour
(i) Rugged
(ii) SWB
(iii) Diesel @ sensible horsepower
or at least that is MY preception
But yes surprisingly interesting

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Having "scadded" through the comments
the comments from the USA want seem to favour
(i) Rugged
(ii) SWB
(iii) Diesel @ sensible horsepower
or at least that is MY preception
But yes surprisingly interesting

As I'm sure you know, we are only able to purchase new the G550 or AMG55 LWB with no other options ... I would have guessed the diesel and the rugged/utility, but the SWB is one I didn't consider. I guess we want everything we can't have ...

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:lol: With "gas" at your prices
wtf would one want a diesel :roll:
I answer my own question
Diesels are NOW better than petrol

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:lol: With "gas" at your prices
wtf would one want a diesel :roll:
I answer my own question
Diesels are NOW better than petrol

Mileage, torque, reliability, ecology ... Just paid $2.70/Gal. for Premium ...

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Mileage, torque, reliability, ecology ... Just paid $2.70/Gal. for Premium ...

What is the RON rating of premium in Texas? I remember seeing 87 as the cheapest type in CA last summer...

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Mileage, torque, reliability, ecology ... Just paid $2.70/Gal. for Premium ...

What is the RON rating of premium in Texas? I remember seeing 87 as the cheapest type in CA last summer...

92 is the high end 89 mid and 87 cheap ... The 280 is cheaper to run only because the fuel is cheaper - mileage is a out the same ...

Here is the Wikipedia explanation:

Difference between RON and AKI

Because of the 8 to 10 point difference noted above, the octane rating shown in the United States is 4 to 5 points lower than the same fuel elsewhere. 87 AKI octane fuel, the "regular" gasoline in the US and Canada, is 91–92 RON in Europe. 93 AKI octane fuel, the "premium" gasoline, is 97-98 RON in Europe.

However most European pumps deliver 95 RON as "EuroSuper" or "EuroPremium" (equivalent to 90–91 AKI). In Germany, Great Britain and some other countries, 98 RON as "SuperPlus" (93-94 AKI) is available almost everywhere. Even 100 RON (95-96 AKI), is widely sold, and BP sell 102 RON, marketed as "BP Ultimate 102", at some very select few filling stations.[2]

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203 Responses, 33 Countries, 6 Continents s far ... Still looking for Antarctica ...

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The Survey is put together and off to Graz ...

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Very cool looking!!!

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A special thanks to David Watkins form this forum, Heinz and Eric for presenting the Survey in Graz!

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Great work guys, I am optimistic of the effect of this great cross-continental work of cooperation.