Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price slide?

17 replies [Last post]
marcus
marcus's picture
Offline
Joined: 02.05.2004
Location: Co. Antrim, N. Ireland
GWOA Groups: Members

jat
Marcus

umhloti
umhloti's picture
Offline
Joined: 04.08.2007
Location: Ireland ,Louth
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

Please explaine . Is this a UK or Eire matter

marcus
marcus's picture
Offline
Joined: 02.05.2004
Location: Co. Antrim, N. Ireland
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

U.K.
just in case anyone was trading a 460 in agin a new motor?
a hyundai i10 for instance
Like I got one def, I would hate to do it though

prwales
prwales's picture
Offline
Joined: 30.05.2007
Location: West Glamorgan
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

£2000 Allowance against a new vehicle comprising £1000 from the government and £1000 from car manufacturers as their contribution. Vehicles must be over 10 years old and owned by the person for a minimum of 1 year, will run from May till March next year. Daft plan environmentally questionable, should be putting money into improving public transport. Uk only though Germany has a similar scheme.

umhloti
umhloti's picture
Offline
Joined: 04.08.2007
Location: Ireland ,Louth
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

Thanx lads.

Dickie
Dickie's picture
Offline
Joined: 10.05.2005
Location: Peterborough
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

This is close to my heart, because it looks like our G is going to be chopped in under the scheme. It's an 89 280 LWB petrol in fair condition with about 120k and full service history. I'm finding it hard to determine exactly what it's worth - you see plenty of hopeful types looking for around £4k for such cars, maybe in slightly better condition, but my understanding is that they're really trading for well under £2k. Am I deluded and really sitting on a pile of gold?

prwales
prwales's picture
Offline
Joined: 30.05.2007
Location: West Glamorgan
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

older g-wagens sell on condition but the 280 being so thirsty is the hardest to shift. If your car were a manual and in very good condition with service history £4k would not be too unreasonable. But you have to ask yourself what will you get if trade it in for a new car.... whereas a g-wagen with regular maintenance is a virtual "last for ever vehicle".

Russ280
Russ280's picture
Offline
Joined: 06.11.2003
Location: Trefonen
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

You’re £2k "saving" will disappear within days due to depreciation.

Small, economical, low CO2 maybe 80 days
Medium family, say 40 days
Large, a week at best :roll: :roll:

Grecian
Grecian's picture
Offline
Joined: 28.10.2008
Location: Somerset
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

I think you should get 2k for it if you were to sell it on here (condition dependant as PRWales says). Maybe a bit more on ebay/autotrader. Better off doing that and buying nearly-new and avoiding much of the depreciation Russ has pointed out.

Grecian
Grecian's picture
Offline
Joined: 28.10.2008
Location: Somerset
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

IMHO, the scheme is only any good if you have a propper old banger worth a few hundred quid. Otherwise the premium on new cars just doesn't make it worth while.

Spider1V
Spider1V's picture
Offline
Joined: 21.10.2007
Location: Beaconsfield, Bucks
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

Also this offer is for a NEW, unregistered car. If the dealer is offering against something already registered and is on the forecourt, then it is a No No

Spider1V

Dickie
Dickie's picture
Offline
Joined: 10.05.2005
Location: Peterborough
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

True - it isn't straightforward because the car isn't a £200 banger. But the time-wasting faff on ebay and failed sales on autotrader make it an easier option. And since Fiat and Citroen are offering around £5-8 grand off cars on the scheme it soaks up some of the depreciation...
When I went to a dealer, they stated because they were going to scrap the car you could take in a rolling chassis, which is an interesting option. Strip the vehicle down completely, sell off the bits and then claim scrappage money.

marcus
marcus's picture
Offline
Joined: 02.05.2004
Location: Co. Antrim, N. Ireland
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

:oops: :oops: :oops:
Corr
Another person as "careful" :lol: as myself
Cos
I was making the same enquiries :idea:
Like
Those tyres are too good to scrap
&
thats a NEW alternator, :roll: only fitted at Christmas
etc
etc

Grecian
Grecian's picture
Offline
Joined: 28.10.2008
Location: Somerset
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

Dickie wrote:

When I went to a dealer, they stated because they were going to scrap the car you could take in a rolling chassis, which is an interesting option. Strip the vehicle down completely, sell off the bits and then claim scrappage money.

Good option, especially with a G. Still don't like buying brand new though. If they're offering 5-8k off the list price then the second hand value will just be proportionaly less won't it?

Dickie
Dickie's picture
Offline
Joined: 10.05.2005
Location: Peterborough
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

That's true - there's no 'free' money around but I do tend to keep cars for a while. The main issue with the G is that I value the space and robustity [sic] but never use the 4wd capabilities so I'm paying the premium in maintenance time and fuel against, say, a van with 5 seats. But the G is so much more appealing... I knew it was a mistake to come on here.

Grecian
Grecian's picture
Offline
Joined: 28.10.2008
Location: Somerset
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

It probably was, few people on here are going to advocate chopping a G in for a french/italian hatchback! If you're going to keep a car for a while then buying new isn't so silly but don't send a perfectly good G to the scrappers in the process. At least try to find it a good home first.....please...

Dickie
Dickie's picture
Offline
Joined: 10.05.2005
Location: Peterborough
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

I'll get some pics up and get a feel for what it's worth from People Who Know.

prwales
prwales's picture
Offline
Joined: 30.05.2007
Location: West Glamorgan
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Has the scrappage deal put a bottom in the 460 price sli

no mistake you make some valid points and you secretly know that your "g" will outlast anything you buy new today. So what I suggest is that you source a more fuel efficient diesel engine and set this cost against what additional money you would have to spend on top of a notional £2,000 trade in value.
A replacement engine sourced from a scrap/recycling yard fitted by your local Mercedes specialist may work out less expensive in both the short and long run.