London - Amdmiralty Arch 4th March @12:53
OK Who's is this beauty?
Mr. Spider, are you revealing a new found affinity for LHD G's?? ;)
I think that one lives in Nottinghill.
And Sav... clearly he is a closet case.
I think so Max, he's finally coming out.... ;)
...not sure about the RED G though, the colour doesn't work as well on 463's...
sure it does. it's just that the picture doesn't do it justice. it is really quite a bright red. you just need the words "Feuerwehr" on the front and blue lights...
LIke I said before :twisted: Right is right!
Spider, some of my friends are exactly like you... they think English is the best language on earth, British people are the smartest and the EU makes 'Britain no longer a great nation, but a province of Europe'.
As a coloniel, I share the same view to a great extend!
L P Phong wrote "English is best etc"
even a BNP voting reactionary would have difficulty with this and no offence you sound a wee bit like a turkey voting for Xmas. The British Empire was a terrible thing for all those colonised.
L P Phong wrote "English is best etc"
even a BNP voting reactionary would have difficulty with this and no offence you sound a wee bit like a turkey voting for Xmas. The British Empire was a terrible thing for all those colonised.
As ever almost correct - but not quite! 8)
Any Empire can be viewed as a terrible thing, however our contribution was not in wholesale slaughter and maiming like say the Mongol, early Chinese, French, Dutch or Roman empires. Granted we did invent a number of things that were used; Identifying Jews (star of David), the concentration camps - apologies to both Ireland and South Africa but on the whole we at least provided education, economics, allowed (in the latter years ) peaceful independence, a frame work for Legal and fair justice, the ENGLISH language and of course you can say;
'Well apart from that, what else have the bloody British given us?'
Spider1V - the Empire will strike back, when we have some money.... :roll:
lets start with the bad bits:-
slave trade
opium wars
zulu wars
ashanti wars
American War of Independence (not exactly a peaceful transition)
Colonisation of and wholesale looting of Africa
Colonisation of and looting of India
rickets, the workhouse, transportation
women and children in the mines and sweeping chimneys
Sudanese Wars
colonisation of Australia (slaughter of Aborigines)
plantations in Ulster
The Potato famine
Tobacco
International Capitalism
the good bits:-
steam engines
railways and steam ships
MacEwans Export
Plymouth Gin
Scots and Irish Whisk(e)y
and Trade Unions
L P Phong wrote "English is best etc"
even a BNP voting reactionary would have difficulty with this and no offence you sound a wee bit like a turkey voting for Xmas. The British Empire was a terrible thing for all those colonised.
HAHA, none taken! Perhaps HK was one of the very very few exceptions. As far as I know, the vast majority of older HK local people (the ones who were born there, not the "new arrivals" from mainland China) love the coloniel rule rather than the chinese rule.
Although the coloniel government may have done a number of bad things, it certainly made Hong Kong became part of the developed world with a good legislative, executive and law enforcement system. Thanks to the coloniel government in the 70s... we also have the lowest corruption rate in Asia!
I think you are being very magnanimous but you know as well as I do that China is the future
slave trade - well technically like most they were copying all other empires, they did not invent the salve Trade.
opium wars - Well OK,
Zulu wars - they started it, they attacked a defenseless missionary, we just retaliated.
Ashanti wars - Again they provoked their masters.
American War of Independence (not exactly a peaceful transition) - it was their need to rush things - had they waited 10 years they would have become a dominion with voting rights.
Colonisation of and wholesale looting of Africa - And what did the Romans do to us? (They took all your Gold BTW)
Colonisation of and looting of India - we still gave them independence and they still have (with the exception of one or two stones in the crown jewels) a mountain of natural resources, we also BTW gave them the strength to be a powerful economic power. With out Britain they would be a collection of regional principalities.
rickets, the workhouse - which will soon be making a welcome return!
women and children in the mines and sweeping chimneys - where else should they be?
Sudanese Wars - of course and Gordon deserved what he got (pain in the neck)
colonisation of Australia (slaughter of Aborigines) - was that the English pr the new 'Australians'
plantations in Ulster - Hmmm OK
The Potato famine - was the weather also not a contribution (Genuine question here my Irish friends)
Tobacco - Ye aha! (just look at the revenue we generate enough to provide the regions with tax money to spend)
International Capitalism - Hmmm Capitalism and Socialism are NOT that far apart...
the good bits:-
steam engines
railways and steam ships
MacEwans Export
Plymouth Gin
Scots and Irish Whisk(e)y
and Trade Unions
NHS
and list on my previous post.
Spider1V - Not saying were THAT perfect!
I know a guy who was in the army during the riots in Hong Kong during the 60's.He told me that on a number of occasions they dumped student troublemakers out of helicopters into the sea of the coast.A nice form of law enforcement,fondly remember no doubt!
no we're not perfect and I can't genuinely think of a single country that has benefited from experience and most are still suffering. But especially so in Africa where almost every "independence" lead to or was preceded by conflict, Kenya, Uganda, Rhodesia, South Africa, Nigeria/Biafra, Sierra Leone, Ghana possible exceptions Botswana,Tanzania and Zambia. The British Raj in India has had a terrible legacy, millions dead in partition, wars between India and Pakistan, between Pakistan and West Pakistan and on going war in Afghanistan and Sri Lanka. The West Indies are either tax havens or "narco economies" and our dabbling in the middle east has made the mess that is Palestine. Not much of a legacy.
I know a guy who was in the army during the riots in Hong Kong during the 60's.He told me that on a number of occasions they dumped student troublemakers out of helicopters into the sea of the coast.A nice form of law enforcement,fondly remember no doubt!
That riot was started and organized by the local communists in HK 'in co-operation' with the cultural revolution in China... they burned normal law-abiding civilians and planted bombs everywhere...
Although planting bombs and burning people is definately not nice... dumping people into the sea is simply awful! I didn't know that until today!
I should ask my parents about this... they should know!
Surely war, famine, greed, slavery and torture were all around long before Britain or anyone else started empire building. Pre-colonisation India and most of Africa had developed through tribal conflicts, as had Britain and Europe through the dark ages. It takes a long time for civilisation to develop.
That said, colonisation has destroyed cultures (native Americans and Australians to name a couple) and for that there is no excuse and no way back.
and brought disease and general malaise
All true but look on the bright side....... at least we can say the Sun Never Set on the British Empire. Which considering our size as an Island and our (relatively) small population is no mean feat!
Spider1V - The Glass is always half full!
The Roman Republic and its successor lasted the best part of 1000 years and arguably is still with us in the form of the RC Church, the British Empire was at its peak at the turn of the 20th Century and gone by 1947...the sun never sets etc sounds like the rantings of some old Colonel Blimp
tally ho!
Well, things took longer in those days.
The Roman Republic and its successor
You mean the Empire, go on, you can say it. :D
What I always find incredible is when one considers how powerful and advance countries (or cities) were in the case of places like Rome.
But now look at them... anyone visiting Italy today would be hard pressed to believe that such a chaotic place could once have been the most powerful empire in the west.... :lol:
We visited Rome to watch Wales play in their first 6 Nations game and everyone thought it was wonderful of course my cynical comment was so it should be we paid for it!
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Shows how desperate I am getting if I can actually find a LHD G nice!
Sorry to dissapoint you Lefties - no Chance and frankly the Pciture did not do the colour justice, but then I am no david Baily/ Herb Ritts! :P
LIke I said before :twisted: Right is right!
Spider1V - Nice try boys, better luck next time!