Steering column???

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w4hsa
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Having felt some knocking from the steering when off-road (nothing on-road) I started to read various articles about lubricating the slip joints on steering column etc etc.

Having just been out to see if I had any movement in UJ's and if there were any grease nipples to lubricate I noticed that my steering column looks like it has moved - should the top look like this?

Any help / appreciated

regards Andy

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I just removed mine on my 463, the bottom of your shaft, where it meets the steering box, looks like it should have more contact. The shaft is telescopic, I think, so you should be able to slacken the pinch bolts I think you might even need to remove and gently tap it down a bit further.
Also your UJ's look a bit dry? Try a very liberal coating of WD40etc then soaking on a Diesel rag. Should prevent problems!

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Thanks for that - I'll try that.

But should the top of the column protrude like that? (spring exposed??)

Andy

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Yes, that's fine.

Regards,

w4hsa
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Re: Steering column???

Thanks Rakesh.

I have also noticed when I grip the steering shaft at either end of the rubber boot (ie just inside the two uj's) I can feel some play?

Assuming this is the sliding joint - will a strip down and relube help? Is this normal for a 460 with 119k miles?

cheers Andy

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jasonatouchofclass wrote:
I just removed mine on my 463, the bottom of your shaft, where it meets the steering box, looks like it should have more contact. The shaft is telescopic, I think, so you should be able to slacken the pinch bolts I think you might even need to remove and gently tap it down a bit further.
Also your UJ's look a bit dry? Try a very liberal coating of WD40etc then soaking on a Diesel rag. Should prevent problems!

To get the bottom joint, at the steering box, you need to remove the bolt completely as it locates in the groove in the spigot.

w4hsa
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Are the steering columns the same in all 460 models? :?:

Andy

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update... Steering columns are same on 460 diesel as petrol. I purchased a second hand one complete with Ujoints rebuilt greAsed sliding joint etc etc and it's made a big difference. Only took a couple of hours so well worth it. Thanks for all help. Andy

w4hsa
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.....it's back same as before?

Any other thoughts? Steering damper maybe?

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steering damper does not normally knock unless the end bushes are worn and then you would get steering shimmy at around 60mph....the fact that you appear to have cured the knock albeit short term! is baffling....any play in the steering box could generate a sensation in the steering wheel over rough/uneven terrain.is there excessive movement of the steering wheel before the wheels start to turn ??(engine running)......

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I would say about 8-10mm of movement at the steering wheel before anything happens?

I used general purpose grease in the sliding joint (once I had applied the dry graphite)...is the grease up to the job? :?:

Anonymous
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I think that movement ok. Think up to 30mm in the mot testers book?
Have you checked any track rod ends whilst some one else steers?

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jasonatouchofclass wrote:
I think that movement ok. Think up to 30mm in the mot testers book?
Have you checked any track rod ends whilst some one else steers?

Yes, you are correct. The permitted play at the steering wheel is 30 mm.