Paint treatments

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At the risk of being banned from the forum by even asking, but has anybody any experience of these new fangled paint treatments that let water/muck/fingerprints/bird doo etc wash off the car easily? Black paint whilst great when clean and shiny is not the best colour in winter. I'd really like the matt black stick on film treatment, but that's unlikely.......so any stories, good or horror?

Marg

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the matt black stick on is probably cheaper than a paint treatment...

but ask Hus. his G never seems to get water spots etc like everyone elses.

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hmmm, i could go on and on......

to talk simple terminology. its all in the prep of the paint. many cars that leave the showroom are inflicted with swirl marks and buffer trails by valeters that seem to think they know what they are doing,,,,but are really useless !!

as for the superguard, teflon paint protection services or similar marketing crap that dealers offer, its a load of bull :shock: any car will scratch if not washed properly. these new nano technology non scratch modern paints on todays modern cars WILL scratch !

whats your intention? is your G in need of a respray? or is it that it looks dull and matt? if its original merc paint keep it original :wink:

what area are you in ? i can put you into contact with a top paint detailer in your area.

all you guys, my dear G friends might not be to interested in car detailing but if you follow these simple rules, you will be ok.

you need 2 buckets, 1 with clean water [to rinse] and the other bucket with car shampoo.

get a lambswool mitt, very good at picking up the muck and storing it in the wool and preventing swirls. do a panel at a time and rinse the mitt in the clean water and then back into the shampoo bucket.

this IS the best way of saving your paint !!

of course a good soak is vital, a jet wash even better, and uses less water :wink:

wiping the water, you need a waffle weave micro fibre, or you are inflicting more scratches and marring the paint. :( this is why my ruby looks clean and shiny.[ i gave it the full works after the essex trip and nothing since :P ]even i am impressed. it wont hold any stains at all, but the prep was done. but its too invoved unless your an enthusiast or have time....

i wont go into my 3-4 stages of polishing, measuring paint thickness,refining the paint and then glazing and adding a wax to protect :!: :!:

claying is also vital. [this is like putty, you apply by spray bottle a clay lube on clean paint and run this bar of clay on the lube'd paint and it shifts all the contaminants on the paint [like tar, road dirt, tree sap, bird droppings etc] these are what you feel on the paint after you wash and dry the car and it feels rough when runnong your finger tips on the paint.

like i said, its the prep.

there is a company that sells a polishing wax THAT YOU CAN APPLY YOURSELF without needing a phd. i will send the link. its cheap, very very effective and eliminate the scars on most of your G's guys :P

its called bilt hamer.

brilliant stuff and it works, trust me. :)

here is a good resource;

http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/Store/Category/ManufacturerProductLis...

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Thanks guys, will investigate.

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Ere
Where did this clay stuff / process appear from?
I had never heard of it
Now seem to see adverts for the stuff everywhere
I got fields full of the stuff
How do I market it?
Cheers
M

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no no marcus, the clay you are talking of is used for 'bum fluff'

:P

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OK
Huss
Though I think some of the putty clay we got underneath would be near enough the same thing, well down out of the way of the roots of the "rush bushs"
However my question really was :?:
When did this "claying" of car bodywork suddenly become
"mainstream" rather than a specialist activity??

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I had to investigate this as being not the greatest at cleaning my G I have never heard of Clay cleaning products.
So for all those as ignorant as me about such stuff, this is an extract from a website about it. Being a woman, I have tried a few skin cleasing methods in my time, and I am sure this is what the beautitian said to me without the vehicle references of course :D

A car clay bar is an essential car detailing tool that targets the common enemy of every car finish: pollution that causes automotive paint contamination. It relentlessly pursues your car from the second it leaves the factory until your car meets its ultimate demise. It's in the air we breathe, it's on the roads we drive, and it attaches to your car's paint, where it bonds and begins a process of oxidation.

Surface contamination, as shown by this diagram, is difficult to clean or polish off, yet paint cleaning clay removes it with ease.

When contaminants get a solid grip on your car's paint, washing alone may not be enough to remove them. Pre-wax cleaners also may not be able to exfoliate large particles. In this case, you have two choices: use a polishing compound, which removes a lot of paint material, or use a clay bar. A clay bar isn't a polish or a compound, it is a surface preparation bar that smoothes the paint and exfoliates contaminants.

Well I am glad to say that I learnt something new today.
Thanks Hus55 8)

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So how the F--k when I drive through a big clay puddle the car gets dirtier :?:
it should therefore get cleaner instead. :twisted:

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marcus wrote:
So how the F--k when I drive through a big clay puddle the car gets dirtier :?:
it should therefore get cleaner instead. :twisted:

That's because you need to leave it on overnight and add some cucumber paste on the headlights to ensure they shine at their optimum brightness.

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Maxwell Smart wrote:
marcus wrote:
So how the F--k when I drive through a big clay puddle the car gets dirtier :?:
it should therefore get cleaner instead. :twisted:

That's because you need to leave it on overnight and add some cucumber paste on the headlights to ensure they shine at their optimum brightness.

You also forgot the ground apricot seed scrub with the natural sponge from the mediterranean sea.

Spider1V - just jealous that he can't get a shine like Hu55 can :cry:

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Such pampering for a vehicle, when we are inclined to neglect ourselves :shock: I can envisage car 'spas' being developed next to human spas so that our beloved vehicles can be pampered at the same time, so avoiding that awful vehicle vice - jealousy :lol:

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hi all, clay has been around for a long long time.... mainly in the bodyshop and trade. never really to the public. car detailing is big business in the states !! new to the uk, i guess 3 years or so...

the easiest way for anyone here to get good results on their pride and joys is this;

2 buckets
a lambswool wash mitt [megiaurs]
gold class shampoo [megs agains]
clay bar and detailing spray kit [megiaurs]
sonus waffle weave drying towel.

as mentioned, 2 bucket method of rinsing the mitt after shampooing a panel greatly minimizes the swirls and scratches.

once you rinse the G apply the spray and run the claybar over the panel. it 'shaves' all the contaminents off. amazing stuff ! makes the paint like glass, ready for the polish wax treatment.

for this the best thing for you guys is the bilt hamber wax, it is great ans simple to use.it will give you 70% results in the serious detailing world, but 100% for normal enthusiasts looking for that hus55 look!!!!!!

just follow the instructions on the products, its simple......

well, now you all know what i will be doing in north cyprus...

detailing cars and not clothes..