460 PTO ?

yes you can get them, about a £1000 and it bolts on the side , I wentcthis route but unless you are going to use it a lot there's no point, just go for a come-up winch for £ 360. Pro was only for the vg080 trashfer case, it's a nice accessory but don't waste your money if it's not for daily use

Your timing is a bit unfortunate Mike - Twodogs ( away on hols for 2 weeks) is probably worth talking to - he's just sold his G with the pto driven hydraulic pump running a milemarker.

mike, I've been there done it and I was using mile markers years ago before they bought the type r motor. The kit cliff had was purchased from me. Now if you are going to do challenge events and you have time and money then there is little difference if you compare gigglepin with milemarker. I love hydraulics but that's was before gigglepin started making there conversions. It's all about speed if you want to compete, bit reliability is first on the list. It's a learning curve, been doing challenge events now for ten years and it's changed so much.

hey
a cheaper way to mount a hydralic winch is to do it with a mekanik clutch and the pump on the end of it and then drive it with a double belt
We have been using this for 5 years on our 280 for racing our pump deliveres 45 ltr/min and 120 bar so the speed is ok and the pulling power is amazing the winch is a mile marker 9000

having competed in a team on a winch challenge with a 90 on a pto winch, I wouldnt recomend them to anyone that is interested in this type of offroading, I'm sure as you all know as soon as you depress the clutch the pto stops working, in short very difficult to drive assist winch with them as you cant clutch it to stop the vehicle and let the winch catch up.
I'm planning on putting hydraulic winches on the orange tray-back G I have, and they will be driven off a 29cc engine mounted pump, haven't decided yet whether Ill move the rad and drive it straight of the bottom pulley with a small shaft, this would be the best/most reliable way, but I don't know where I can put the rad as to not loose rear vision, another way would be to belt drive it from a toothed belt with a corresponding pulley fitted to the bottom pulley.
I was speaking to john sales at donnington on the weekend and looking at his stud150 hydraulic winch, and he was saying that a lot of guys are using chain driven pumps, as with a belt you need it completely enclosed because the belt will pickup muck etc and give reliability problems.

also on the note of hydraulic winches goodwinch have a new 2speed one coming out in a few months, which looks very nice, not the quality of johns stud150 though, which for a hand made in the UK product is very reasonable price wise.

@jesper, Ive never used ether system Im just going on advice from guys running them, so you have more knowledge on it than me,
the issues I was told about belts picking up dirt were toothed belts with the pulleys in theory growing from it as the dirty sticks. something that wouldnt happen with a v belt, but as I'M looking to run a 29cc pump I didn't think a twin v belt would drive this size of pump, what size pump have you used?

on the note of chains picking up more muck as there oiled, I would agree with you, but having said that they would be fairly robust being used in many agricultural applications

I suppose the bottom line with ether system comes down to how well they have been built, you can use the best parts but if its put together to less than exacting standards it will fail, and the person who built it will blame the method that he used to transfer drive to the pump rather than his engineering skills

any chance of some pictures of you set-up for inspiration?

regards mick.

I had twin v belts fitted with a 50lt a minute pump, electromagnetic clutch, and a variable speed valve block. The v belts kept slipping under load and when wet. Thats when I decided to fit the PTO, as a back up !. I could use both at the same time as I had non return valves fitted, so when the belts slipped the PTO would take over. But I could drive assist with the auto box as the PTO can work whilst using first and second gear, drive assist was only used when in the hard tricky stuff. Me and Howard were using Hydraulic in challenge events some 8-10 years ago. But they have come on in leaps and bounds. If your running from the engine it has to be duplex chain, forget belts altogther. If your running a PTO you should go for autobox.

the one above was hand made by Rob Saley. very clever guy, video'd him at and AWDC event, on youtube before they pulled it because of the sound track :evil: He is already winning events, but its not just the winch Mick, its the driver and the reliability of everything on the truck if you want to win. Uprated 8274 with the twin motor is really kicking, we have one on the td5 we compete in, best thing we ever did. Dont get me wrong I would have hydraulics any day, but its down to cost. Its easier for you Mick as your in the trade, diggers and all. :wink: now when you gunner sell me that G pick up of yours, either one will do.