Tips on filling up

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Tips on Filling your Vehicles...

This is a Message received from a friend's friend:

I don't know what you guys are paying for petrol... but here in Durban, we are also paying higher, up to 7.35 per litre. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tips to get more of your money's worth for every litre. Here at the Marian Hill Pipeline, where I work in Durban, we deliver about 4 million litres in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day it is diesel; the next day it is jet fuel, and petrol, LRP and Unleaded. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 litres.

ONLY BUY OR FILL UP YOUR CAR OR BIKKIE IN THE EARLY MORNING WHEN THE GROUND TEMPERATURE IS STILL COLD. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground, the denser the fuel, when it gets warmer petrol expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening.... your litre is not exactly a litre. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the petrol, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products play an important role. A 1degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

WHEN YOU'RE FILLING UP, DO NOT SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER OF THE NOZZLE TO A FAST MODE. If you look, you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode, you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapours that are created, while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapour return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapour. Those vapours are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TIPS IS TO FILL UP WHEN YOUR TANK IS HALF FULL. The reason for this is, the more fuel you have in your tank, the less air occupying its empty space. Petrol evaporates faster than you can imagine. Petroleum storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the petrol and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation.
Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated, so that every litre is actually the exact amount.

IF THERE IS A FUEL TRUCK PUMPING INTO THE STORAGE TANKS, WHEN YOU STOP TO BUY, DO NOT FILL UP - most likely the petrol/diesel is being stirred up as the fuel is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.

Hope, this will help you get the maximum value for your money.

Spider1V - squeezing every penny! 8)

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Hmmm seem like myths to me.

I doubt the temperature underground will fluctuate that much during the day and is the rate of evaporation greater than the extra time it would take you to fill your car?

Time is money after all....

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sorry but let's just sort out the high tax the thieving bastards take off us. Petrol is not expensive, its the tax. 7p a LTR in Saudi for petrol !!

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And since excess weight increases fuel consumption.
a full tank will adversly affect ones miles per litre.
Anyway diesel is a much better behaved liquid fuel

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would you rather pay more in income tax? Govts have to raise money some how at least when its petrol you have some flexibility in the amount you use.

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prwales wrote:
would you rather pay more in income tax? Govts have to raise money some how at least when its petrol you have some flexibility in the amount you use.

No.

Governments should spend the money they raise on Taxes wisely, and not keep thinking the working population is there to tax out of existence.

Spider1V - Is it me, or is politics becomming more Amercian? (Verba non fact!)

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I agree Govts ought to spend wisely but what would do think it ought not to be spent on? I think current transport policy is rubbish, I would build more railways and I would tax kerosene and like the French I would go nuclear in a big way but would also spend on green energy like the 7 barrage. I can think of lots of things that I would spend more on but few that I would cut.

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prwales wrote:
I agree Govts ought to spend wisely but what would do think it ought not to be spent on? I think current transport policy is rubbish, I would build more railways and I would tax kerosene and like the French I would go nuclear in a big way but would also spend on green energy like the 7 barrage. I can think of lots of things that I would spend more on but few that I would cut.

Hmm interesting points raised and I would agree with your comments.

The problem that we have is the amount of money we could save dropping Idcard, and the whole 'nanny state' we have at the moment. You could save billions (and reduce the risk of red faces with lost disks etc) by getting people to think for themselves and get back to working and not relying on the government to keep bailing them out.

I would also get rid of Health and Safety and replace it with the Min. Of common Sense! Save billion just in legal fee's. Re Green; a real study into cars and look at the real cost/carbon foot print to include manufacturing. Did you see Top Gear and the comments that Mr. Clarkson mentioned on the supposed Green Car – the Prius?

I am sorry but we need someone who is not media based, but policy based and will make the tough decisions we need to get back on our feet!

I do not believe taxing the ‘middle classes’ and viewing them as an easy target, quite like most of the political parties are viewing us at the moment!

Spider1V

P.s I would give a big tax reduction to all G Wagens 1) for being cool and 2) because come the serious weather we are going to be called upon to help all those battery powered cars that will get wet, stuck in Ice etc etc :)

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I think a lot of money is wasted in bureaucracy - but that is a difficult one to fix unless they run the gov't like a company... I wonder how much more efficient the Corporation of London is?

And of course how many billions have they spent sending the boys to Iraq?

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the main reason we are having these conversations is the shift in economic power to China, everything we used to manufacture in Britain is now outsourced.The fuel price rises we have seen this past year put this strategy in doubt as an economic policy. Particularly so as the goods made in China have to be transported great distances further driving demand for fuel. So if you want to blame anyone blame Chinese Capitalism, Mao must be spinning in his shrine!

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prwales wrote:
the main reason we are having these conversations is the shift in economic power to China, everything we used to manufacture in Britain is now outsourced.The fuel price rises we have seen this past year put this strategy in doubt as an economic policy. Particularly so as the goods made in China have to be transported great distances further driving demand for fuel. So if you want to blame anyone blame Chinese Capitalism, Mao must be spinning in his shrine!

Or blame western greed?

It is western consumers always looking for a bargain and not willing to pay the price of goods produced in the west due to western workers wanting to live a life of privilege and western shareholders demanding companies make more profit when they have reached market saturation and thus western companies setting up shop in countries where production is cheaper.

If the west produced goods for cheaper or western consumers were willing to pay the labour costs associated with the salaries they themselves demand then this wouldn't be an issue.

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the public have little or no power in terms of macro economic decision making but if you mean the multinationals and globalisation yes I agree.

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the public decides where and how they spend their money and that has repercussions for big multinationals.

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And I thought they were good tips.......Only trying to help....... :oops:

Spider1V - waiting until his Kats are fixed, then I gonna get me some RR Arse! Mwhahahaha :twisted:

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sorry Maxwell can't agree, spending in the west is as much based on advertising and fashion than by any rational decision. I would even say that the whole Economic system depends on persuading people to buy things they do not need.

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prwales wrote:
sorry Maxwell can't agree, spending in the west is as much based on advertising and fashion than by any rational decision. I would even say that the whole Economic system depends on persuading people to buy things they do not need.

That I agree with - but the power still lies with where the public choose to spend their money; the only unfortunate problem is as you point out they are irrational and choose to spend it where the media tells them to! Sheep.... :lol:

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Max,
I am with you on that one.
IF, and a very big IF "the people" did not buy all that unneeded "tat" from China each year especially at Christmas, we would not be in the predictiment we are in.
Especially vis-a-vis waste disposal.
This is where ( unfortunately ) trade tariffs ( or punitive taxation?? )sometimes make sense
Ditto for some of our energy consumption
Marcus

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I agree with you all guys.

Christmas is a clear example of the horrendous way we are educating our children in.... endless flow of useless/unwanted toys. Kids get fed up with them in question of minutes, and then they contribute of the big pile-up of rubbish we produce. And they cost a bunch to make in terms of oil usage, not to mention, transport, distribution, etc.

I for one, am trying to get my kids to appreciate the pleasure of fixing older toys... to no avail whatsoever.

End of the rant.