new G320 CDi in right hand drive?

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aside from whats good or not good about being on the opposit side we are not allowed to register new LHD vehicles on the roads here.
max, I will check out ORC thank you and, peter templeman replied with even more venom. maybe it riles him when people are polite. I have a few more things I need to know so will try to keep him from spitting the dummy just a little longer - anyway its quite fun watching him rise to the bait.

Does that only apply to new vehicles? I know someone who bought a used LHD G to bring back to NZ...\

You are quite right . As long as vehicle is owned and used for 3 months before being shipped to NZ it can be used here. Owner must not sell for 5 years. I think it would be a waste of money to convert a LHD G to RHD and even when done professionally there are always things that are not quite correct . Driving a LHD tall vehicle here is not only easy but an advantage as you get out on the footpath.

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you can let me have it for 3 months and then ship it over, that sounds win win to me!

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tanex - think what you are referring to are the rules for importing vehicles into nz free of GST (vat in the uk). the period of ownership before and after is used to qualify the vehicle as a personal posession and therefore free of gst tax (vat). there are no import duties applied on either new or used vehicles coming into the country. think the new rule only prohibits the new registering of old or new LHD vehicles onto the road.
max - suggest your friend makes a few phone calls to confirm this for themselves; the new registering onto the road of a LHD vehicle I mean! or maybe they have a farm and thats all they want it for.

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tanex - think what you are referring to are the rules for importing vehicles into nz free of GST (vat in the uk). the period of ownership before and after is used to qualify the vehicle as a personal posession and therefore free of gst tax (vat). there are no import duties applied on either new or used vehicles coming into the country. think the new rule only prohibits the new registering of old or new LHD vehicles onto the road.
max - suggest your friend makes a few phone calls to confirm this for themselves; the new registering onto the road of a LHD vehicle I mean! or maybe they have a farm and thats all they want it for.

Here you are
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/factsheets/12.html

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max - have just phoned tanex and I think he's correct re import of LHD vehicles, ignor my blabbering about gst and duty etc, and thank you tanex who's bringing in a new 320cdi LHD

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tanex, when does your car arrive and where? is there a chance we could have a look at it before she goes south

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tanex, when does your car arrive and where? is there a chance we could have a look at it before she goes south

Yes of course. But not placed order as yet . September start on new model with Feb delivery. Will keep you posted. Yes in through Auckland where the LTSA have some experience with the odd G

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max, I'm useless at these machines and now I cant seem to scroll back to a message of yours last night - I think with a contact like www.orc.com which I want to try. you also mentioned two big G Wagen dealers in germany but didnt give names - do you have these again please.

We're still not interested in a LHD even though it would be so easy.

but what would the chances be of raising enough interest (and you say 200) in the idea of a limited edition 30th aniversary model 320 RHD straight out of Graz. surely there would be 50 dealers around the world that could pre sell say 2 or 3 and then there must be numerous members who would take up the idea given a 6 nonth period to codgutate.

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that's because you've probably never opened your bonnet.... :)

i also find the pedal relationship between the brake and accelerator slightly out of place on a RHD. don't ask me why... i just notice when i move my foot from the accelerator to the brake - it feels like i need to really pull my foot back and across rather than just across. noticed this on a few RHDs but not LHDs.

both is true on my RHD G300

instead of pulling the lever outwards from the inside (towards your body), you push the lever inwards away from your body when opening your bonnet

regarding the foot pedal placement, it is indeed true again that you have to pull your right foot backwards from the accelerator before you can move it to the left (brake pedal). and i think the two of them are positioned way too close. it is akward if you're not used to it.

alternatively, you can brake using your left foot :lol:

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In the W460/461 was even worse: when you have to pull the difflock levers they are on the wrong side...

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i forgot to mention earlier,

there's no foot rest on my RHD.
not really a big deal, but it's still nice to have

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Honestly you guys, what twoddle! as if any of these little weny things really matter. What I can't get out of my stupid head is the having the very latest beautiful big G Class on the normal side of the road. I know I'm getting old but I cant bear to think of myself as a fanatic on the wrong side forever making excuses about it.

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Sitting on the "wrong side" vs having a car which was really put together as an afterthought?

After having had to have repairs done to mine and seen the simplicity that resulted of having a car built the way it was intended I would say that it matters....

An example is if you follow the thread on drag links you will see that on a LHD car each joint end on the drag link can be changed independently. On a RHD one side is fixed which means that instead of a simple part swap you need to replace the whole drag link. A significant difference and only one example.

Having actually owned both a RHD and LHD G in a RHD country - I can say that these things matter far more than what side of the car you sit on.

That is not twoddle. Twoddle is worrying about sitting on the wrong side. No different than driving down a one way street...

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im going fishing.

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greg wrote:
im going fishing.

Well Done! I trust that you will fish from the right side of the river as opposed to the wrong one :lol:

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Maxwell Smart wrote:
Sitting on the "wrong side" vs having a car which was really put together as an afterthought?

After having had to have repairs done to mine and seen the simplicity that resulted of having a car built the way it was intended I would say that it matters....

An example is if you follow the thread on drag links you will see that on a LHD car each joint end on the drag link can be changed independently. On a RHD one side is fixed which means that instead of a simple part swap you need to replace the whole drag link. A significant difference and only one example.

Having actually owned both a RHD and LHD G in a RHD country - I can say that these things matter far more than what side of the car you sit on.

That is not twoddle. Twoddle is worrying about sitting on the wrong side. No different than driving down a one way street...

Hmmm, what helps is having the steering wheel on the correct side. I.E (in the UK) RHD , the little niggles and slight imperfections compared with the LHD are a very small price to pay to have the correct specifications.

As for fishing it must always be off the RHB and please remember that anything that was Left handed* was always meant to be close to the devil and evil! This stems from the word Sinistra the Italian for left, which was encompassed into the English Language as Sinister meaning ‘with evil thought or intentions’

‘And the devil shook with his left hand to confirm the deal’ – Leviticus

Soooooo you LHD, evil, malicious and devil worshiping people, just see that we the RHD’s here in the UK are on the path of righteousness and have purer souls than you! (this does not transpose to those countries that drive on the left…there OK)

Spider1V – the Righteous one! :wink: :lol:

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Right is right. Left is wrong. Four legs good two legs ..better.

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8) :wink: :lol:

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Spider1V wrote:
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Sitting on the "wrong side" vs having a car which was really put together as an afterthought?

After having had to have repairs done to mine and seen the simplicity that resulted of having a car built the way it was intended I would say that it matters....

An example is if you follow the thread on drag links you will see that on a LHD car each joint end on the drag link can be changed independently. On a RHD one side is fixed which means that instead of a simple part swap you need to replace the whole drag link. A significant difference and only one example.

Having actually owned both a RHD and LHD G in a RHD country - I can say that these things matter far more than what side of the car you sit on.

That is not twoddle. Twoddle is worrying about sitting on the wrong side. No different than driving down a one way street...

Hmmm, what helps is having the steering wheel on the correct side. I.E (in the UK) RHD , the little niggles and slight imperfections compared with the LHD are a very small price to pay to have the correct specifications.

As for fishing it must always be off the RHB and please remember that anything that was Left handed* was always meant to be close to the devil and evil! This stems from the word Sinistra the Italian for left, which was encompassed into the English Language as Sinister meaning ‘with evil thought or intentions’

‘And the devil shook with his left hand to confirm the deal’ – Leviticus

Soooooo you LHD, evil, malicious and devil worshiping people, just see that we the RHD’s here in the UK are on the path of righteousness and have purer souls than you! (this does not transpose to those countries that drive on the left…there OK)

Spider1V – the Righteous one! :wink: :lol:

ahhh - give me the boy :wink:

Dentsmithy - the one that escaped :wink:

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Hey guys, my wife reads these and I don't think she was too bothered when it was a German vs English struggle - think I'll be getting some pretty strange looks now though.

Anyway I didn't catch anything - think my concern over which side to be on was diturbing the water.

I'm going to the NZ ditributers and will then hit the Germans when they're fresh back from their August holiday ready for a new challenge!! In the mean time, those RHD softies amongst you need to prepare your wives for a new member of the family mid next year!! There is going to be a Special Order from the civilian uprising.

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It's only a bit of banter Greg, wouldn't worry about it.

L or RHD, the important controls are in the middle :wink:

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Roly wrote:
Right is right. Left is wrong. Four legs good two legs ..better.

Four legs runs faster than two.... :lol:

Although I can't argue with Spider's case... I guess I believe in the :twisted: but then again judging by the way he drives I think he does too....

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Sitting on the "wrong side" vs having a car which was really put together as an afterthought?

After having had to have repairs done to mine and seen the simplicity that resulted of having a car built the way it was intended I would say that it matters....

An example is if you follow the thread on drag links you will see that on a LHD car each joint end on the drag link can be changed independently. On a RHD one side is fixed which means that instead of a simple part swap you need to replace the whole drag link. A significant difference and only one example.

Having actually owned both a RHD and LHD G in a RHD country - I can say that these things matter far more than what side of the car you sit on.

That is not twoddle. Twoddle is worrying about sitting on the wrong side. No different than driving down a one way street...

Hmmm, what helps is having the steering wheel on the correct side. I.E (in the UK) RHD , the little niggles and slight imperfections compared with the LHD are a very small price to pay to have the correct specifications.

As for fishing it must always be off the RHB and please remember that anything that was Left handed* was always meant to be close to the devil and evil! This stems from the word Sinistra the Italian for left, which was encompassed into the English Language as Sinister meaning ‘with evil thought or intentions’

‘And the devil shook with his left hand to confirm the deal’ – Leviticus

Soooooo you LHD, evil, malicious and devil worshiping people, just see that we the RHD’s here in the UK are on the path of righteousness and have purer souls than you! (this does not transpose to those countries that drive on the left…there OK)

Spider1V – the Righteous one! :wink: :lol:

ahhh - give me the boy :wink:

Dentsmithy - the one that escaped :wink:

well both the Rosminians and Jesuits tried....... and failed! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Mwhahahahaha -

Spider1v - The Speed Demon! 8)

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Spider1V wrote:
dentsmithy wrote:
Spider1V wrote:
Maxwell Smart wrote:
Sitting on the "wrong side" vs having a car which was really put together as an afterthought?

After having had to have repairs done to mine and seen the simplicity that resulted of having a car built the way it was intended I would say that it matters....

An example is if you follow the thread on drag links you will see that on a LHD car each joint end on the drag link can be changed independently. On a RHD one side is fixed which means that instead of a simple part swap you need to replace the whole drag link. A significant difference and only one example.

Having actually owned both a RHD and LHD G in a RHD country - I can say that these things matter far more than what side of the car you sit on.

That is not twoddle. Twoddle is worrying about sitting on the wrong side. No different than driving down a one way street...

Hmmm, what helps is having the steering wheel on the correct side. I.E (in the UK) RHD , the little niggles and slight imperfections compared with the LHD are a very small price to pay to have the correct specifications.

As for fishing it must always be off the RHB and please remember that anything that was Left handed* was always meant to be close to the devil and evil! This stems from the word Sinistra the Italian for left, which was encompassed into the English Language as Sinister meaning ‘with evil thought or intentions’

‘And the devil shook with his left hand to confirm the deal’ – Leviticus

Soooooo you LHD, evil, malicious and devil worshiping people, just see that we the RHD’s here in the UK are on the path of righteousness and have purer souls than you! (this does not transpose to those countries that drive on the left…there OK)

Spider1V – the Righteous one! :wink: :lol:

ahhh - give me the boy :wink:

Dentsmithy - the one that escaped :wink:

well both the Rosminians and Jesuits tried....... and failed! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Mwhahahahaha -

Spider1v - The Speed Demon! 8)

That's ma boy!!!!!!!!!!!

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Greg - did you ever get anywhere in your hunt for a RHD G conversion? They are starting to make them again if not....

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we got perilously close to buying a new g55 last month in hong kong. two brand new RHD cars had just arrived as display stock. we didn't because they were unable to offer them for export free of their luxury tax which doubles the price. they were just over 500k NZD each. but it was none the less incredible to see two, so perfectly new straight from the factory and very difficult to restrain myself from crawling all over them.
we had also heard through MB tourist delivery back in august that they might be starting production of the g350 in RHD from next sept but that this would not be confirmed until end of jan. what do you know...please tell?? and you bet we'll be the first to sign up.

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Ha Ha - I think your posts prooves that nobody at MB knows anything about what is going on with RHD production....

Somebody else on the forum posted that they tried to buy a new RHD G55K and that MB UK told them they hadn't made them in the last year or two.... but clearly they still do if you just saw two new showrom models...

They have officially announced some worker models in RHD based on the Australian order. I think that there are some w463s ready to be produced but not 100% sure.

Check http://gwoa.co.uk/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=8797&highlight=RHD

Also if you don't mind used, there are lots of G55Ks coming on to the used market over here.

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well i don't know what to think other than that you need new mb representsation in the uk. i saw a few new rhd cars on the streets in hk plus the two newly arrived ready for sale (above). mb toursist delivery asked me to enquire again end of jan ref the g350 cdi rhd for sept 2010 and will let you know the reply - for what its worth, as you all seem to be enemies over their!