w 460
Dear G friends,
I ve found a G with VIN 46033217025532 for sale. I tried to sort out details about the car through the Romanian site, but I ve confused. Any help is welcomed.
Cheers Angelos
Seems it's a Belgian vehicle to begin with...
VIN WDB46033217025532
Body 3
Plant 61
Model 300GD244-4
Chassis 46033217025532
Engine 617931 10 006639
Transmission 711202 10 014737
tCase 750609 10 022301
Tyres
Primary 201Q72580
Rear 201Q72580
Order 6 2 513 00030
Approx. year not defined
Rims SUEDRAD
Cab 460533 10
Steer 765502 10 001854
Dealer Belgium (513)
Paint
6880 agave green
Options
A70 differential lock, front axle (Ñ 1978)
A71 differential lock, rear axle (Ñ 1978)
C70 two-part rear bumper (Ñ 1978)
E40 trailer plug socket, seven-pin
mb-telephone (cellular) with console and card (Ñ 26.06.1997)
F66 glove compartment, lockable (Ñ 1978)
G75 speedometer adapter
H20 heat-absorbing glass all round (Ñ 1978)
H22 heated rear window (Ñ 1978)
K88 auxiliary tank 13.5 liter (Ñ 1978)
15-liter additional tank
L12 halogen headlamps
L16 halogen fog lamps (Ñ 1978)
L18 rear fog lamp (Ñ 1978)
L30 gravel deflector grille, headlamps (Ñ 1978)
L66 additional interior lamp, above rear end door (Ñ 1978)
Q20 trailer coupling, mouth-type
Q58 tow-off coupling, front (Ñ 1978)
R85 spare wheel carrier on the outside of the rear panel door (Ñ 1978)
S30 driver's seat headrest (Ñ 1978)
S32 co-driver's seat headrest (Ñ 1978)
V05 interior trim, upgraded version (Ñ 1978)
V19 interior trim in brown (Ñ 1978)
V47 tray with hot-air guide
V63 luggage nets on backrests (Ñ 1978)
W41 rear panel door, one-wing, with window (Ñ 1978)
W83 rear window wiper/washer (Ñ 1978)
X01 plates, specific countries
Paraka lo..anytime :)
Paint
6880 agave green
Ahhhh! Beautiful colour! :lol:
Hi Jesus,
I ve seen the car today. It is in bad shape, very rusty and I could buy it for spareparts only. Any idea if I can put the front axle with differential lock on my car? (as mine is without lock)
Seems it's a Belgian vehicle to begin with...
VIN WDB46033217025532
A70 differential lock, front axle (Ñ 1978)
A71 differential lock, rear axle (Ñ 1978)
the only issue with putting the axle on yours is the diff ratio.otherwise the axle should just be a straight swap, and for the difflocks you would have to add the master next to the gearbox area, plus all piping etc.not impossible just a bit laborious!!!!!!!
the only issue with putting the axle on yours is the diff ratio.otherwise the axle should just be a straight swap, and for the difflocks you would have to add the master next to the gearbox area, plus all piping etc.not impossible just a bit laborious!!!!!!!
All the knobs, pipes etc there are on the rusty car, how can I check the ratio? Is anything written on it or I have to open the differential?
Thanks Markvulture for help.
Angelos
the easiest answer is that there is a small alloy id plate on the front of thaxle next to the diff, it has the ratio on it, it says i= i think, if one of them has been knocked off then via the vins is the next option.
i dont know if the crown wheels and pinions can be swapped from a non to a locker axle, investigate on the russian epc site to see if the part numbers are the same, especially if you can find someone with a 290gdt that has a front locker to compare the part numbers.
The shade tree mechanic method;
Mark the propshaft and tyre.. and count the number of revolutions of the tyre to propshaft... and that is your ratio.. i.e. 3.77 tyre revs to 1 prop rev is a 3.77:1 diff.
Actually, I think you'll find it is the other way around, i.e. 3.77 turns of the propshaft to one turn of the wheel. And that is only true if both wheels on the axle turn equally. The alternative, assuming this is all being done on a standing vehicle, is to only jack one wheel off the ground (and support vehicle), then with the transfer box in "neutral", you should only get 1.88 (approx) turns of the prop to one full turn of the roadwheel with a 3.77 diff. :wink:
Angelos,
No need for that... if you enter that VIN in the Russian EPC website,
http://www.detali.ru/cat/OEM_MB0.asp?WDB=WDB46033217025532
you will see that the front axle serial number is 730 300 17 022951
The 730 300 was the standard front axle fitted to all W460 300GDs.
It's ratio is 44:9 (4.888:1).
If my memory serves me right, you own a 290 GDT, fitted with a 730 360 front axle, whose ratio is 41:11 (3.7271).
So there is no way that you could simply swap axles. The alternative is to take the axle housing of the 300GD and swap all the internal parts of your axle into it (yours is likely to be in better shape that the 300GD's).
The crown and pinion of the 290GDT with/without diff lock are exactly the same, and the front axle of a W461 is basically the same as that of a W460 so I don't see why the plan above shouldn't work.
Just in case you need it, this is the VIN of a 290GDT with front diff lock: WDB4613362X114782
http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb.asp
Let us know what you find!
Thank you all for help, :D
I am waiting as the car has to be sold not as a car but as spare parts (a lot of papers :evil: ) and I believe I will follow Jesus recomendation. I will let you know the final result.
Cheers Angelos
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M2dxb,
thanks a lot, you are superb! :D
Regards Angelos