winch advice
Slightly tangential question here. I know zip about winches, see them discussed here a lot.
I've just bought a 14' dropside trailer which will be used 95% of the time in my landscaping business. I wish to use it very occassionally to move a car, will be long enough with an overhang.....
The trailer has no winch, no prob if the car being moved drives, but the first one i need to move has no engine.
Anyone got any suggestions about a winch? Manual would be ok, as 4x per year usage will be enough i reckon, would consider electric but that may be unneccessarily complicating things.
Cheers
when ive loaded cars ,tractors my wifes rayburn oven etc, that dont drive themselves,i have unhitched the trailer( also 14 feet ifor williams £1900 new last year)and pulled them on using a chain or rope with the g wagen .firstly putting hand brake on and chocking it up where nessary you need 2 people though .if the wheels move freely i cant see any problem ,might be different if someone is paying you to do the moving hope this helps
when ive loaded cars ,tractors my wifes rayburn oven etc, that dont drive themselves,i have unhitched the trailer( also 14 feet ifor williams £1900 new last year)and pulled them on using a chain or rope with the g wagen .firstly putting hand brake on and chocking it up where nessary you need 2 people though .if the wheels move freely i cant see any problem ,might be different if someone is paying you to do the moving hope this helps
:lol: :lol: :lol: I've done that many times too but if you want a bit more control try a tirfor - lots on ebay. I have the 532 model which is a bit big but will pull a G wagen sideways. Very versatile for self recovery too especialy with a snatch block and a couple of rated shackles
Should have called in, only 15 miles away and could of had a demo.
A tirfor is a hand operated winch that grips it's own wire rope a bit like an ascender, if you have ever done any rock climbing. They are rated for lifting so there is a huge safety margin built in. If you google 'tirfor' (Click the images option too) there's tons of stuff and all self explanetary. You do have to do the work and they are slow but very strong. Tree surgeons use the small ones. I bought mine, the biggest, on ebay but HSS hire shops do them by the day if you want to try, or only need it once.
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.landroverclub.net/Cl...
This is a realy good article :wink:
hmmmm this is getting more interesting.....I looked at tirfors but they appear to be £125-£200. Have been offered a manual 2000lb winch for £100 (new) or a reversible 2500lb one for £150......really dont know what to do now........
ps had already thought of the trick involving using the detached tow car as the winch ;) just worried the trailer would move even if chocked.....
Lots of copies around and they all seem to be 'swl' tested so should be fine.
Tirfors and the copies work in both directions so you can lift and lower with them too. Don't think you want something that won't reverse
Towsure or no doubt Screwfix will do hand operated 1t doubling to 2t hand winches for sub £20
http://www.towsure.com/product/1047-Winch_-_Power_Hand
.. they are scrap really and the only one I have died while trying to winch a mobile home weighing over 2t out of clay on it's 3" x 9" tyres! :? but that was abuse and it is still sort of going .. but with a bit of rope to lengthen the pull and a few chocks to stop the wheels rolling while you set up the next pull it works.. in fact thinking I use my 2" wide 5t strops to winch with multiple stops when the drum is full .. and would only use the hand winch when the strop runs out of pull..
http://www.towsure.com/product/7044-Tie_Down_Strap_21ft_x_50mm
I must admit .. if you have brakes on the dead vehicle.. then tow it to the top of a hill.. put trailer and car down hill of it .. consider at minimum putting rear wheels of tow car up on 2-4" of timber to drop the back of the trailer .. and then gravity does it all .. with maybe a little help over the hump of the ramp at worst with a strop pull... but watch out for overshoot of end of trailer .. not pretty :shock: :cry:
Now High Bentham .. that is Frank Atkinson aka Unimogs? .. I was there a few weeks back at 6pm at night after an afternoon in Lancaster .. but I wanted to get back up to Aberdeen so 30 miles would have been a bit far..
Now High Bentham .. that is Frank Atkinson aka Unimogs? .. I was there a few weeks back at 6pm at night after an afternoon in Lancaster .. but I wanted to get back up to Aberdeen so 30 miles would have been a bit far..
Talking unimogs, did you ever go to Clapham Aggri behind ES Hartley Mercedes?
no i was at harrison trailers in high bentham, ted has a yard at ghyll head farm......
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can you expand on that a bit Chris please? what is a tirfor and how does it work? was up near your way yesterday, high bentham nr kirkby lonsdale