Wiper bearings earlier 460

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There seems to be an issue with the right hand wiper bearing/arm assembly from MB. The part has a change over at around 66,000 chassis number and my 58,000 G from 1988 should be the earlier type.

The part MB supplied to me is A 00 820 43 46 which is right on EPC.

This has the 2 knuckles for the linkage but they are in the wrong place and in wrong direction compared to what came off my car. The later after 66,000 chassis number cars are only available with a complete linkage (ie both bearings and the link arms).

New one is in front in photo

Has anyone else come across this?

Oh and 463 one I did get by mistake .. the bearing section is longer, the centre to knuckle distance is longer yet the motor is the same by part numbers .. so they obviously reworked the linkage quite a lot for the 463.. now I have one spare :cry:

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Re: Wiper bearings earlier 460

mygrays,
one of the very few questions I can answer.
i had the same problem.
my local Belfast agent was very helpful, however it appears that there is at least one fault with MB's EPC, ie these bloody wiper linkages
the answer is simple, knock your old duff bit to bits and use it as a template to centre punch and bore an interference sized hole in the right place in the new one.
I do not remember exactly how I got the ball ended spigot removed from the new part but it is not that difficult, tap it in the correct way round, rivet ( or perhaps braze / weld back in )
I riveted mine and it has been fine.
good luck
then grease your knuckles, vasiline is best it will help heal the gouges that will be in your knuckles
cheers
Marcus

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Marcus,

That was plan B.. (Grind, knock out, drill holes, reinsert and MIG weld tack in place)..

... but hoped that someone here might have the right part number! (plan A)

.. as for fitment .. well no dash, interior, windscreen, inner/outer front wings, doors etc .. seems like the right time to do it! :wink: .. a long hard road! :roll:

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Re: Wiper bearings earlier 460

Seriousley hope your wife? does not "tidy" the garage in the meantime.

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Hum.. other half is about to flit anyway.. but she has the other half of the shed .. in fact she gets more room than me (90x60' shed) but I guess I have another 2 cars off the road in the other 6 car shed.... but only one on the road.. it was up to 8 cars at one time (4 road going)... keep on reining myself back .. but keep eyeing up Unimog 406 convertible round windscreens from '66-'68 to snow plow with and get to work in after.. and do proper off roading :D .. well that's the excuse! .. and I did turn down buying that Sprinter 312 for the engine .. must finish one project first.. :cry:

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Oh I say, sound man !
bastard ! , even more "projects" than I can muster

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Hi the Part Number for the early 460 passenger side bearing is A 000 820 42 46 at GBP 14.62 each from MB dealerships.. described lager-rep-satz or w/wiper linkeage.......

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just noticed my wiper linkage is worn badly,and thought i look and see if there was any good advice on here . :D hey presto picture of part and wrong part ,proper part no. and price .how much dash board dismantling is reguired i dont want to go too far as it always seems to uncover more things to mend

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Hi the passenger side one (RHD) is accessible (after removing the glove box through the glove box aperture...the drivers side is difficult to get at without dismantling the dash ..can be done but you need slim hands ..long fingures..and a good retinue of verbal expleatives....strip the new bearings and grease them with high melting point grease.or drill an oil hole in the body and then add them to the pre winter service schedule.......

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thanks fixwin you could write abook with your posts on here. glove box entry thankfully . so expleatives could be under wraps ,i found if you want to really want to let rip a bit off spray painting was best :oops: :evil: i try to avoid that sort of thing now :)

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Fixwin,

A 000 820 43 46 = Bearing Parts Kit, Right = Drivers side on RHD.. as photo'ed above (& wrong)
A 000 820 42 46 = Bearing Parts Kit, Left = Passenger side on RHD .. yes .. but I need Right side? .. so still no further on?
A 001 820 74 41 = complete linkage rod with both bearings

The descriptions are off EPC on line .. but my Left bearing has only one knuckle on it .. and I want a Right bearing?

My chassis is 460 332 27 058xxx which brings up the above part numbers but says AFTER chassis 66 443 and 904 855 (461?) the part numbers are;

A 000 820 81 46 = Bearing Parts Kit, Right = Drivers side on RHD
A 000 820 80 46 = Bearing Parts Kit, Left = Passenger on RHD
.. but these are not available so dealer says you have to buy the linkage assembly;
A 463 820 02 41 = Complete linkage including both bearings.

I must dig out my 463/461 Right bearing part number .. to try to compare it as it looks like late 460 cars now get forced to use 463 linkage which has revised crank length and longer bearing sections (they stick further through the body).

But a quick look at a G300 D = 463.328 = rhd.. shows replacement part numbers
A 000 820 79 46 = Right/driver/RHD
A 000 820 78 46 = Left/passenger/RHD
... so close but not the same.. but
A 463 820 00 41 or A 463 820 02 41 = complete linkage... not sure why there are two numbers but the second one is the same as a late 460 ... and so the 463 part numbers above might be used to replace just the bearing on a late 460 ? This is confirmed as the link rod between the bearing has one number the same (A 463 820 03 41) but also has A 001 820 45 41. I am not expert enough to know why there are double numbers in EPC unless they will filter out by chassis number?

Interesting 463 shows a "Wiper Assembly repair Kit" A 000 820 10 40.. which might show the internal bearing inside the bearings and every fastner you will not need!

.. anyway ... EPC seems to have different linkages for different ages .. but a 1988 460 Right hand linkage for a RHD is wrong in the bag in my sample of one... time for the grinder :cry:

.. and thanks Fixwin for greasing /oiling mod.. I might final get a picture up.. it is easier on 463 with the longer bearings housings.. on 460 you need to remove the fixing nut and drill about 3.5mm down .. I managed to split a bit off the internal bearing on one by drilling too high :cry: .. but then saw the chrome was shot so started this trail of replace the Right bearing :roll: