Both Reverse Lights not working :(

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Gibson
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Hi,

Both my reverse lights are not working :(... I have tried replacing the bulbs but that did nothing...All the other lights on the back work fine.

Anyone have any ideas?

Many thanks
Joe

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Re: Both Reverse Lights not working :(

Hi, take off the gear stick gaiter and disconect the switch. Short out the contacts ( ignition on) with a short piece of wire - if the lights come on you need a new switch - about £5 from MB dealer - if not check fuses - if fuse ok then has to be wire between fuse in switch.
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Re: Both Reverse Lights not working :(

Hey,

Thanks alot for th reply, First of all whats the Gear stick gaiter? and is this switch easy to see?

I've replaced all the fuses with brandnew ones so that shouldn't be a problem :)

Thanks alot
Joe

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Hi Joe, sorry for the assumption, pull up the leather bit below the gearstick, inside you will see that if you engage reverse the lever pushes a pin on a switch , bottom right. there are two wires to a plug on the side of this switch - pull out the plug and short out the terminals - your reverse lights will probably illuminate (with ignition on) and if so you will need a new switch.

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Re: Both Reverse Lights not working :(

Ah ok thanks alot thats great!

I shall give it ago in the mourning :)

Thanks alot for your help

Joe

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Just a thought Joe, but before you disconect the plug from the switch try pushing in the pin by hand - if the bushes on your gear linkage are worn the gear stick will feel sloppy and might not push in the pin enough when you engage reverse.

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Hi,

I have tried to look for the switch but I can't seem to find it anwhere:(

I removed the outer casing around the gear box and diffs to make it easier but I still couldnt see anything.

I forgot to tell that mines an auotmatic gearbox if that's any help?

many thanks
Joe

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Sorry Joe, missled you - had assumed you had a manual. It's a long time since I had an auto but I think the reverse switch is on the side of the gearbox by the selector lever. Someone may know better.

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Hey again,

Well i've had a closer look and heres and i've found a few things lol so i took some photos:

Heres the gear Lever:

Heres a little ball thing that when pushed seems to click against something although its just above 1st gear and doesn't seem to do anything:

And here is a little white connector that seems to go up into the underside of the gear selector numbers. I have tried disconnecting this a reconnecting but it did nothing:

Hope thats of some help to anyone lol

Thanks alot for your help though :)

Many thanks
Joe

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Hi somebody has been "having a go" because the blue and red inline connectors are not an MB instal. check the wiring diagram for the 280 auto in the owners handbook.....I see a single wire running from the side of the Gearbox that goes to ground when reverse is selected....

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Hey,

the red and white connectors were installed by me! They are replacing the gearbox light that lights up the numbers as it stopped working.

Just to let you know the reversing lights didn't work beofre i did this!

And im not to sure what you mean by "I see a single wire running from the side of the Gearbox that goes to ground when reverse is selected" Just to let you know im not very thick i'm just 20 so i haven't had as much expirience at this kind of stuff :P

Thanks alot
Joe

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Don't worry about the lack of experience Joe, you'll get lots with a g wagen :lol:

I'm affraid I don't know enough about the autos but there could be a wire for the kick down to hold in first - sounds like you need to see a wiring diagram - there's one in the handbook if you have that.

The wire to the reverse switch is permanent (ignition on) live - the switch makes the circuit - is it possible you used this live to light the selector - is it on permanently?

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hi

Thanks :) urm no I used the wiring from and existing light and that only comes on when the lights r turned on :)

thanks alot for your help though :)

Thanks alot
Joe

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Re: Both Reverse Lights not working :(

on this vehicle, with an autobox the reversing light switch is integrated into a thing called the inhibitor switch.it is on the side of the gearbox underneath the arm that is moved to select the gear.it stops you starting the engine unless you are in park or neutral and also powers the reversing lights.it is under the car on the left hand side of the gearbox.
if you have changed the bulbs and fuses with no result get a small electrical meter, and test the fused side of the fuse with the ignition on to make sure that it is live.if so then take off the rear lens the connection in the bulb holder, if this is live you put in a duff bulb!!!if it has no output the trace back, ie get into the connection plug and test the input to the switch and the output.to test the output it might be worth taking a flying lead from the battery pos to the output conection, this should light the bulb.
all you have to do is trace back one stage at a time to find where the fault lies.
but it is attached to the side of the box, not inside the car.

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Hi,

Thanks alot thats great...Is it possible to replace this as i have another Auto G wagon that the reverse lights did work on :)

Many thanks
Joe

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yep it can be replaced, you probably have to remove the arm that the selector rod goes to to get it off and then unbolt it, in which case mark it so that you put it back 100% in the same place (the arm that is) or you wont be happy with yourself !!!!!
but to try it you should be able to just pull the plug off of the one on the car and plug it onto the replacement.then all you would have to do is put a screwdriver etc thru the middle and see if it works.dont forget, it will only work with ignition live, but dont turn the key to turn the starter coz if its in gear it will jump around a bit!!!!!!
let us know how you get on.

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Re: Both Reverse Lights not working :(

Hey,

Well i've had a look and i think i've found it but i think im gonner take to the garage down the road to get it fixed as id rather not damage it so its unusable lol.

Thanks alot for all your help though :)

Many thanks
Joe

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hi

Another update! I forgot to try starting the car in gear and the bad news is that it did start in gear. So could this mean tat the inhibitor switch has gone and it just needs replacing or not?

Thanks alot and sorry if I'm being a pain!

Joe

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Hi check the wire that connects to the inhibitor switch on the side of the gearbox.... fixed one last week that had corrosion on the pin that the wire connects to ......

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Hi,

Me again Im affraid!

I stopped looking for this once I thought I may take it to the garage but I've decided id like to give it ago myself! I have crawled around under the Merc for ages (front to back) and I can't find anything. Is it the the huge block of metal in the centre? near one of the exhaust boxes?

Sorry to bring up old posts!

Also its covered in alsorts of oily crap and mud would it be advised to clean this off or would I have to be carefull? If so what would you advise or is it just straight water :P

Many thanks
Joe