Cooking Oil
A good friend of mine experimented with ASDA's best in his 300GD. Upto about 80%. The cold weather put paid to the experiment as the white clouds of vapourised cooking oil caused a bit of a stink! The 617 engine is fitted with a fuel heater which is great once you're at working temp, but little help on starting. I have seen an electrical heated jacket to pre-heat the fuel filter and thin the oil for start up, has anyone tried this? :?
Oh yes and I passed on the Duty form to him! :wink:
Haven't seen the jacket but there is a gizmo you can get which preheats the oil if you are running vo. Check ebay - its compatible with Gs or so the seller says. Other thought is to hook the webasto up to a seperate fuel tank which runs pure dino diesel.
Oh well, that's no joke. SVO is widely used in Germany where it pays no duty, particularly amongst "classic" Mercedes users because they need virtually no modifications.
The joke is the Governments the UK and Spain currently suffer....
Thanks I'll.....tell my friend to have a trawl. Joke is our old oil burners could be green over night if HMG was really intereted in green rather than another tax!
This is the item number for gizmo on ebay: 280093468479
Interesting bit of kit. Basically a small reservoir, then flow of Fuel is heated by glow plugs the degree of heating regulated by a temperature sensor. Once the engine is up to temp the fuel is heated by the cooling water. Very neat! Would pay for its self after 300ltrs of running 50/50 if my Sunday am Math is correct! :lol:
If you're only running 50/50 you can do with out it. The only problem on an older G will be your seals I think.
If you're only running 50/50 you can do with out it. The only problem on an older G will be your seals I think.
You can run a OM617-powered 300GD with 80-20 (in winter) or even 100% SVO (in summer) without any modification to the engine whatsoever (even in English weather).
Maybe some fuel lines would have to be replaced by newer version that resists SVO degradation, but that is all.
Check this out:
http://rapsdb.rapsinfo.de/view.php?offset=0&sort=&marke=Mercedes
(German weather is generally harsher than the English one)
Just an example: http://rapsdb.rapsinfo.de/detail.php?id=353
Maxwell Smart wrote:If you're only running 50/50 you can do with out it. The only problem on an older G will be your seals I think.
You can run a OM617-powered 300GD with 80-20 (in winter) or even 100% SVO (in summer) without any modification to the engine whatsoever (even in English weather).
Maybe some fuel lines would have to be replaced by newer version that resists SVO degradation, but that is all.
Check this out:
http://rapsdb.rapsinfo.de/view.php?offset=0&sort=&marke=Mercedes
(German weather is generally harsher than the English one)I`ve been using svo in mine for while at the rate of 50% it Has the same power the only problem is the smell dip fry behind :roll: :Mine is 300GD 1988
I've been using svo in mine for while at the rate of 50% it Has the same power the only problem is the smell dip fry behind :roll: :Mine is 300GD 1988
Well, I, for one, think that it is a very nice smell.
And I see that you have OM601- and OM602 powered W201s. They go with SVO even better than your G with just 10% diesel at the most severe of winter.
Vbento wrote:
I've been using svo in mine for while at the rate of 50% it Has the same power the only problem is the smell dip fry behind :roll: :Mine is 300GD 1988
Well, I, for one, think that it is a very nice smell.
And I see that you have OM601- and OM602 powered W201s. They go with SVO even better than your G with just 10% diesel at the most severe of winter. Yes indeed OM601 is running svo at about 75% it seems to help to clean injectors and less smoke it only the smell but the price is nice SVO at around .49cents litre diesel 1.10€ you can see the diference.
fuel lines might have to be replace sooner but there no big deal and have too change fuel filter more often. Regards
what parts of the fuel lines does this break down??? could you use kerosene instaed of diesel?
what parts of the fuel lines does this break down??? could you use kerosene instaed of diesel?
Regards
check out these guys a few of them have been running their mercedes diesels on wvo for years and most of them have already dealt with most issues that crop up
they olso have a helpful forum on tweaking the old 617a for a bit more power :lol: :lol:
I have been using 50/50 mix with cooking oil, and I am pleased that performance does not seem to be effected.
Bought two 20 litre drums of cooking oil from Makro at £16.37 including VAT per drum, it works out at just over 8p per litre.
So the average cost on a 50/50 mix at £1.00 per litre for diesel is 0.54 pence per litre. :D
Not wanting to ****** on your chips but thats 81.85p / L
I used to get KFC oil from macro for around 49p / L
Ya prices have shot up - at one point I was getting oil at 33p litre not that long ago...
and Bollotti not sure about those figures!
I had to give up using SVO a couple of weeks ago... cheapest that I could find over here was € 0.95/litre, compared to € 0.99/litre for diesel at the pump, and I still had to load, carry, unload and fill with 5 litre canisters!
Not wanting to ****** on your chips but thats 81.85p / L
I used to get KFC oil from macro for around 49p / L
oops, maths was never my strongpoint. :( The oil is KTC.
Actually checking my receipt it was £13.25 per 20 litre drum, so 66p per litre.
Not as great a saving as I thought, but still a saving.
go to a specialist food supplier or the guys that supply the chip shops, cheaper than mackros or cost co, also they do rape seed oil which is much better.
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Thanks I'll.....tell my friend to have a trawl. Joke is our old oil burners could be green over night if HMG was really intereted in green rather than another tax!