Turkish Delight!!!

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hey guys,below are some pix of the sump as promised:
Sump modification.
Steering damper and bracket modification(made in 5 minutes!!)
Shortened front propshaft.

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woops!

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woops!

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prop shaft

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that sumps must be the only one of its kind

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why did you have to make the sump mod ?

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because it would'nt clear the diff peter!!!
apparantley the G's original sump is alot thinner so as to clear it from the diff,whereas the saloon engine (W124 300D) is not fitted to the G with that sump.so thats why i've called it "turkish delight!!"
jesus was shocked when he heard of this conversion but has not commented yet,the cheeky spaniyard!

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jesus was shocked when he heard of this conversion but has not commented yet

Think it is because he is a purist :D

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guess so!

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jesus was shocked when he heard of this conversion but has not commented yet

Think it is because he is a purist :D

Noooo! I hadn't comment becuase I was still in state of shock! :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol:

Honestly, it is fine as long as you don't use your G is such inclines that the oild pumps get starved of oil! :roll:

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Jesus what type of off roading should i be careful of mate?

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Very steep inclines

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What could/would happen??

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What could/would happen??

The oil pump woild stop pumping oil to the top end of the engine, resulting, if engine not immediately stopped in serious damage -could be fatal.

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ok, can i overcome this jesus?

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ok, can i overcome this jesus?

Yes, but it will be expensive, unless you can source the parts second hand. You need the oil pan and the oil pump from the 290GD (I understand that your engine is a OM602 5-cyl, isn't it?)

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this is the engine jesus:

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Well that's a OM603 (6-cylinder). Unfortunately only fitted, as far as Gs is concerned, to W463s and we know how difficult is for one of these to retire (aka be broken for spares).

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is that the same as your engine?if so any advice or tips on improving performance or reliability jesus and what air filter do you use?i'm sure the spanish climate is similar to the cypriot one.
rgds-hus

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If you want to optimize the performance and reliability:

Every 5,000 miles, tops:

*Change engine oil and filter (I use a good quality mineral W15-40 oil)

*Check all fluids (gearbox, transfer box and differentials) and change if necessary

*Check fuel filter and prefilter and change if necessary

*Grease all propshafts

*Check grease in front hubs, refill if necessary, investigate cause for loss

*Check air filter and change if necessary. I use K&N in winter and OEM (Mahle or Mann) in summer due to all that dust in suspension, specially when off-roading

*Check cooling fluid for level and antifreeze protection (temperatures where I live range from -15º to +45º). Change every two years.

*Check braking fluid for level, refill if necessary, investigate cause for loss. Replace every two years with DOT4

*Check clutch operation fluid for level, refill if necessary, investigate cause for loss. Replace when density/colour do not appear normal with DOT4

*Check diff lockers operation fluid for level, refill if necessary, investigate cause for loss. Replace when density/colour do not appear normal with DOT4

(not sure if I missed something)

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cheers for advice mortinson,do you have a part number for the k&N filter?
why do you not use the K&N in the summer??
my filter box was i tight squeeze due to the shock mount.

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look at the filter box;

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sorry!!

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I prefer not to use the K&N filter in summer due to the very fine dust that's everywhere.

I bought the K&N from http://www.ybfilters.co.uk

Ref is 33-2642 and I paid 45 GBP all included

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is your engine the same as mine ?
i could not find a match.canyou post me a pic of your egine please.
rgds
i thought that the k&n would filter out fine particles better???am i wrong ?

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is your engine the same as mine ?
i could not find a match.canyou post me a pic of your egine please.
rgds
i thought that the k&n would filter out fine particles better???am i wrong ?

Yes, engines seem to be the same. But OM603 as I said was only factory fitted to W463, that is why I said that finding an original oil pan will be difficult, becuase no 463s are ever broken for spares!

K&N is a free-flow filter. No matter waht the manufatures says: the more air it lets flow, the less particles it retains. That's why I still rely on the OEM for though working conditins.

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i can understand the logic now behind you theory.only thing i want to do now is feed the air intake into the wing like yours and fit an air vent like the 461/463.have you not considered fitting a snorkel jesus?

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this how my engine is;

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this how my engine is;

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Huss, have you noticed that your engine has been fitted "standing up" while mine is leaning to the right (if you look at it wile seating inside the car). That's why your filter box interferes with the left shock mount.

I will probably fit a snorkel but not right now.

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i see what you mean,but wonder why it was done that way?Could you please examine my conversion and give your opinion where needed,i am not easily offended jesus and trust your ideas with respect!
i intend removing the engine and having the block painted as it looks a bit rough and also intend on stripping all wiring and pipes and having them refitted properly as it was done in a bit of a rush.the manifold has since come off and been resprayed in siver.
do you know what the valve and open pipe is on the manifold?i also noticed your manifold cannot be seen at all.i will also be changing the linkage with a plastic center by the battery,is it called the throttle linkage and do you have the same on your G as mine was a 230GE to start with.

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my engine so far:

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manifold sprayed with heat resistant vht spray

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If you compare these two pictures, you will see that your engine seems to sit lower in the engine bay and be leaning to the left less than mine. Look how high each reaches its respective heater box (mine seems to reach lower and more towards the battery).

Notice also that although mine was taken at a much higher angle, you barely see the exhaust manifold at all