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Waxoyled my main-use G-wagen(300GD) a while ago. Black underneath and clear everywhere else. I tried something else as well and that was to waxoyl the complete engine bay as well with the clear stuff, including the engine as well - literally everywhere. No problems as yet and still looks good.
Thought I'd share for what its worth... :wink:

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NOW YOUR IN TROUBLE MATE!
I have been debating this with shakir for months mercfan.we are both looking at dinitrol as waxoyl was not adviced for cyprus waether being too hot.today i have been looking at another product called por15,looks good too.now my question is;why waxoyl,how easy to apply,how much did it cost,how long did it take to apply,preperation,application method?
any pics would be greatly appreciated mercfan.
regards-hussein
PS.now this will be an interesting topic!

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Hussein,
I will take some pictures tomorrow.
Reason why waxoyl in particular is that it is proven and in that case there is no need to re-invent the wheel. I particularly like the fact that it creeps by itself. Means it gets literally everywhere; will even creep into panel seams. Another reason is the price and availability for future re-application if needed. The creeping quality also means that you don't need to prepare any surfaces, ie removing old rust. It just gets in there and stops it. used it for years now and never ever seen rust reappear where this has been applied. 8) Of course, you'd have to get rid of mudcakes and that sort of thing.
Moneywise, it cost about £70 in materials, but that included the high-pressure sprayer and probe. Time depends on how well you want to do it. Give yourself half a day and that'll leave plenty of time for a few cups of tea inbetween.
The job itself is actually very very easy. Best to do on a hot summers day. You can heat it in winter but the bodywork is still cold so it solidifies as soon as it touches metal, which is not really what you want. Unless of course you have a heated garage/workshop, but then you wouldn't want to do this there. Best somewhere on open ground as you get a fair bit of overspray. On your driveway, it will look like you've tried to lay some tarmac :roll:
Start by opening all dors and bonnet and taking off all the door trims. on the side doors, roll up the windows. Remove the little "spoilers" at the rear side tops where the air outlets are. Lift the carpets and prop them up with anything so that they are maybe 2 or 3 inches off the floor. Also undo the rear lights and anywhere where you'd like it to get into. Coming summer I'll drill a few small holes in closed sections, get the waxoyl in there and fit little grommets to close them off again.
Now get a dustmask, goggles, woolly hat and overalls. Even better instead of the goggles to have one of those safety face shields you use when operating a strimmer or chainsaw. Screw the pressuriser onto the can, pump it up until the pressure release valve starts hissing and start spraying(clear) everywhere into every little nook and cranny you can find. Every now and then you have to re-pressurize the can. I may well use compressor and engine cleaning gun next time... Once done with the upper part, change to the underside with the black and just COAT it - EVERYWHERE. Is quite fun in a weird sort of way. Expect to get very dirty though.
Like I said above, it is best to do it on the hottest day of the year because whatever wants to run off or drip down will do it then. Once done, put everything back together and hey presto - one rust proof G-wagen! :D

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hus55 wrote:
NOW YOUR IN TROUBLE MATE!
I have been debating this with shakir for months mercfan.we are both looking at dinitrol as waxoyl was not adviced for cyprus waether being too hot.today i have been looking at another product called por15,looks good too.now my question is;why waxoyl,how easy to apply,how much did it cost,how long did it take to apply,preperation,application method?
any pics would be greatly appreciated mercfan.
regards-hussein
PS.now this will be an interesting topic!

por15 is a paint. I have used Por15 a lot in the past on chassis & suspension components on historic VW's. A fantastic product & much much better than hammerite. The only thing is do not get it on your skin as it will only come off as your skin comes off :shock: I know that from experience :roll: :lol:

I'm going to be waxoiling the G soon too. All my 'classics' get an annual treatment.

I once bought a 1961 VW from Norway that had been stored for years. Luckilly the ownerhad 'painted' the bodywork with waxoil for protection & it had done a super job.

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I have used Por15 a lot in the past on chassis & suspension components on historic VW's. A fantastic product & much much better than hammerite

Do you mean better than hammerite paint or better than waxoyl(which is nowadays a hammerite product)? If better than waxoyl, then in what respects?

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Por15 is much better than hammertite paint. I always found that hammerite paint tended not to last that well.

www.frost.co.uk

do a search for Por15

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Good stuff - will remember next time I need to paint something, though underbody I am waxoyling everything. But good to know anyway, as waxoyl is not to everyone's taste.

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pictures...sorry not really a photographer :?

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i intend on painting the chassis etc with por15 using their 3 stage process,i think its brilliant stuff and easy to use(i am no expert and have little time and patience).after that i will look into waxoyl or dinitrol when the weather gerts warmer,but i would like to get to the chassis in some way before the road salt does!!!
thanks for the advice mate.

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ive just wintered my g i used waxoyl 15 litres to do chasis and inside everything i reckon another 5l and it will be done. steam cleaned underneath then wire brushed all the loose stuff off then applied liberally to everything

simon

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hi simon, any pics to show end result mate ,what do you mean by inside?i am also keen on waxoyling my pride and joy soon.did you spray or brush it on?

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did you spray or brush it on?

I use a mixture of spray and brush. I think using a brush actually gets it to penetrate / adhere better

Russ

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I love waxoyl the black stuff is very very good on vehicle which are less than perfect it makes the chassis and suspension bits look fantastic and it does stop corrosion. I usually treat my toys after they have been layed up for a while.

tip of the day: stand the can of waxoyl in a bucket of boiling water for several minutes before you start spraying and keep it hot. it sprays on so easily then

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I love waxoyl the black stuff is very very good on vehicle which are less than perfect it makes the chassis and suspension bits look fantastic and it does stop corrosion. I usually treat my toys after they have been layed up for a while.

tip of the day: stand the can of waxoyl in a bucket of boiling water for several minutes before you start spraying and keep it hot. it sprays on so easily then

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hi mike,so is this waxoyl readily available in a can then?
that sounds easy enough,just what i need!

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is this waxoyl readily available in a can then?

Indeed, Huss. They only come in cans. Most motor factors and any Halfords.

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great!

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it is very easy to get in several different forms, 5L cans 2L cans for a pressure sprayer, 1L cans for professional sprayer and aerosols. In darkest devon the local farmers shops are the best place to buy it. most motor factors stock it too.