water leak behind flywheel (aledgedly)
Please describe your vehicle and model.
Never used wonder weld but personally I do not like the idea of it unless you are looking to palm off a fault to the next buyer.
If you are going to repair, do it properly, or not at all; my principle.
Come back with your model so a constructive prognosis can be given.
Is the vehicle Forded a lot?
AAh , Wonderweld..there is a name which brings back memories...have had v good results with K-Seal [ really for Freelanders haha]
hi ned! , i am afraid there is a core plug behind the flywheel / is the water in the solenoid containing antifreeze? is it clean /has it come from the cooling system? check all this first -mike
Am i missing something here?
Core plug behind Flywheel INSIDE Bellhousing?
Solenoid on Starter OUTSIDE Bellhousing?
If that core plug is leaking, can the water get into the gear section of the Starter inside the Bellhousing and by osmosis make its way up into the Solenoid? I thought it was a seperate section of the Starter?
Either i dont understand the set up correctly (highly possible) or i will take some convincing....
Gav
yes that's what i thought gav, seems a bit odd hence the water being given the 'pepsi challenge' -if you have a core plugs gone bad you will have a major loss of coolant sooner or later /if the cooling system is that corroded ,rust will block a hole up and self seal until the next time ..
this maybe a 'miracle' open a shrine asap.. (have you undone your bell housing drain recently it may be full of gunk from the leak /if it was your clutch would feel very odd)
Since there is no news on what this vehicle is, my ernest comment is any possible leak from the bell housing is not possible. The solenoid sits, as Gav has stated outside of the bell housing and above the starter; depending on vehicle.
If you are using a non-fording starter (from a saloon) a non dealer supplied one; particularly if you do ford, it will be natural for the solenoid to be with water or moisture.
Should you ford get a sealed starter - not cheap, or weather proof the solenoid by applying silicone on the joints externally or strip, clean and re-build, applying silicone on the joints.
Ned
What is the G?
I have in my head it's a 460 series 300GD OM617? Chassis number would be good...PM if you want.
If it's water in the solenoid i can only think if you don't ford that it is coming out of the engine further up and onto the Starter.
Anyway up you would surely be using / losing water from the system?
Gav
gav it's a 460 but he has fitted the little 2 litre 4 pot 60x turbo diesel 2 valve per cylinder engine to get himself into a sane position on the road tax in eire as it would be 2000 euro !!! for a 3 litre or something crazy like that / i cannot remember how much it was exactly but it was mega expensive for any big engined stuff in the south. i feel the same as you water is coming down from above possibly a core plug behind the starter squirting in to the side of the solenoid??
OK
Seem to remember a few posts on that, something like an OM601.911 from a W201 190D 2.0 litre.
So Starter Motor is on the left rear bottom of the engine....below the Oil Filter Housing...
Above and forward of that is a 34mm Core Plug in the Water Gallery of the Block?
Directly above in the rear of the Cylinder Head you have the Water Take Off for the Heater and forward from that in the Head you have Water Gauge Temp Sender, Water Controlled Vacuum Sender and the Water Controlled Idle Control Sender if its an Auto.
Then right at the left front of the Head is a Pipe Connection Housing with more Water controlled switches.
You also have various other 25mm Core Plugs dotted about and many 5mm/6mm/7mm Steel Balls in the Water Gallery.
The Water Pump and Thermostat are on the front at the opposite side so doubt that is the issue.
That Core Plug in the Block sounds like a good start but it would be using some Water? For the Solenoid to be shot you would also expect to see some staining around that area on the Block.
Must be something simple
Gav
ned i will have a look on my forklift engine and see what it may be it is a stihl R70 with a 617 diesel electric drive ! hy brid??
So OK
Starter Motor on the Right!
Large 38mm Screw In Core Plug right above Starter is favorite.
Water Drian Plug at front end of the Block.
All Heater Connections and Temp Senders on the other side.
Various Steel Balls in the Head / Water Gallery.
Water Pump and Thermostat on the front Right corner.
Not much else to leak.....Head Gasket is remote chance...
Gav
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