Water in footwell

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Arnie
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Recently, I found some water under the front passenger carpet in the footwell. If you have the same and have ruled-out, the other usual culprits, like wiper spindles and possibly sunroof drain, then before changing the door seal, take aloof inside the door. In my case the lower edge of the inner plastic weather-shield polythene sheet had become detached from the door. Because this plastic sheet is profiled with a recess to accommodate the door bin, small quantities of water that may drip on to the recessed part, will be drawn into the inside of the door above the rubber door seal.

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Re: Water in footwell

Picture here, below

I have written a step-by-step-guide on how to get to the internals of the door, but it's too big to attach, so PM me with email address if you'd like one.

Small amounts of water that  drip onto the internally protruding barrier-sheet (red) will be drawn to the inside of the car, if the sheet is not sealed along the lower part of the internal door. ...or is there are holes in the sheet from previous work done. This means that for water to enter, It does no require the drain-holes in the bottom of the door to be blocked and to overflow.

I cleaned and degreased the door thoroughly and then applied a weatherproof clear Duck-Tape around and along the lower-edge of the door. A bead of silicone sealant was applied on top of this and used to re-attach the barrier sheet. The silicone can be applied directly to the door, but using the Duck-Tape permits easy future removal. Make sure to seal around the 4 lower screw-hole-plugs for the door-bin.

(Also it's  a good opportunity to waxoyl the internals of the door.)

 

 

 

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Hi

Mine was exactly the same

Door rubbers and inner seal not in brilliant condition


My windscreen surround looked like brnd new until i removed screen. I got a big shock as it was full of rusty pinholes.

Mine is a 91 463 and looks mint on body but since i repaired it there is never any water in car no matter about door seals

One check is the interior light switch rubber and the auxillary switch on door post

Hope yours is not the issues i had. I will post pics if you need any

                                             Regards gaz

Alan Holford-Walker
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Arnie wrote:

Picture here, below

I have written a step-by-step-guide on how to get to the internals of the door, but it's too big to attach, so PM me with email address if you'd like one.

Small amounts of water that  drip onto the internally protruding barrier-sheet (red) will be drawn to the inside of the car, if the sheet is not sealed along the lower part of the internal door. ...or is there are holes in the sheet from previous work done. This means that for water to enter, It does no require the drain-holes in the bottom of the door to be blocked and to overflow.

I cleaned and degreased the door thoroughly and then applied a weatherproof clear Duck-Tape around and along the lower-edge of the door. A bead of silicone sealant was applied on top of this and used to re-attach the barrier sheet. The silicone can be applied directly to the door, but using the Duck-Tape permits easy future removal. Make sure to seal around the 4 lower screw-hole-plugs for the door-bin.

(Also it's  a good opportunity to waxoyl the internals of the door.)

Arnie - excellent graphics, good stuff.  Thank you.

 Arnie - excellent graphics, good stuff.  Thank you.

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Arnie, I've finally managed to take a look and all 4 of my doors have this problem to a certain extent. There is dampness between the plastic and the door and in some cases clear run marks where the water has run through the door to the top of the seal. This does seem a rather odd design. I'm concerned using your technique outlined above will cause the water to become trapped above the silicone and cause future corrosion problems. I'm going to see if I can get a second piece of plastic sheet in behind to guide water down to the drain holes at at the bottom of the door. Regards, Ian
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Ian,

I had same worry as you so did exactly as you suggest in addition to the "fix" that Arnie very helpfully supplied. Now confident that the only place for water to go is down to the drain holes. I used  plastic repair sheet from Screwfix. Good quality sheet and plenty to do all four doors with  lots left over.

Mark

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Mark,

You might need talk me through this (idiots guide stylee) as I fink i am experiencing this plight to my passenger door and fear my little truck will be fit only for Fred Flintstone and Barney f****** Rubble if i don't pull me finger out and get cracking with a solution.

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Neil.

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Neil,

I used Arnie's very explicit instructions but whilst I had access to the door I added an additional piece of plastic sheet stuck to the door just above the cavity opening and then falling down into the inside of the bottom of the cavity opening. I cut my sheet long enough to rest on the bottom of the door as when the door card is re-fitted this lifts the sheet slightly and I wanted to be sure that the bottom of the sheet remained below the cavity opening.  I can't see how and water going down the window glass into the door can now go anywhere other than to the drain holes.

I hate to think what the Fred Flinstone impersonation might do to your knees so as I have Arnie's excellent point by point instructions I will email them to you.

Mark

 

 

 

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Arnie I dont know why my reply was blank ... great graphics!  Thank you.  Office 06 Mondeo has the same problem but worse!