Problems starting!

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Alex Johanson
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Having problems starting my 1989 230 ge , haven't touched her since I bought her 1 month ago. I do know she was imported from Japan last year , that is the only documents I have with her. 
Please see problem below.

When I start it from cold the "automatic choke" (if it has such a thing) doesn't keep the revs up, it struggles at 200 rpm and if i dont manually keep the revs up a bit it will stutter and shut off a few times before it keeps running. - this doesn't happen when its at operating temp.

Plus when manually keeping the revs up almost feels like I'm having to force the petrol through because the revs are very slow up too 4000 literally takes 3 seconds to reach 4000 foot to the floor when starting from cold or left for a while. But once warm this is no longer a problem and revs normally .. also thinking it can't be a fuel pump problem because once its warm the engine runs and drives fine. 

One point would be fuel pump is very noisy , can only describe as a constant ringing noise.

Would really appreciate any help.

Thank you 

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Re: Problems starting!

  alex put your VIN number & engine number 

   it will help the boffins 

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Sounds like a warm up regulator problem to me..........try and get your fuel pressures checked from cold.

 

Steve

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I agree with Steve, but would go further to say if you have no experience of the vehicle at all, it would be prudent to do the basic checks and progress from there on.

Check out the spark plugs and regap or renew as necessary, check the distributor cap and rotor arm, check air and fuel filters. Check the ignition timing and emissions. If the problem persists the fuel system will need checking out starting with fuel flow rate and fuel pressure and other tests. This is not DIY job unless you have the necessary equipment.

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Hi Alex

As per everyone's comments....

Check the basics first, has it got plenty of fuel in it!!! How old is the fuel? Check...

Plugs

Distributor Cap

Rotor Arm

Plug Leads

Compression Test

Etc...

The last two 230 GE's i have owned both showed similar symptoms when i purchased them!!!

The 1988 model was near identical in what you describe, it had been stood 2/3 years when i got it but had just passed it's MOT after the lay up but the next day it would not start or run....i was offered and bought it as a non runner, it would seem as a vain attempt to get the thing through its MOT emissions the garage had leaned out the mixture, this must have worked on a warmed up engine as it got its ticket, however the next day from cold it would not go. Long story short the guy delivered it on his trailer, dropped on my drive, paid and signed the V5C. While he was sorting his trailer i popped the bonnet up, adjusted the mixture a fraction of a turn with a 3mm Allen key and fired her up!!! Left it running perfectly whilst he picked his jaw up ;)

One up for me....

The next 1987 model was again a long time standing, and ran with similar issues intermittently, in my confident manner i thought this could be another bargain, bought it unseen and had it shipped home...2 months later after lots of head scratching a compression test showed nothing on no 3 cylinder and a head strip revealed a burnt exhaust valve, a few hundred quid later and it was sorted.

So, basics first...dont overlook the obvious but be prepared for anything

Good truck, great engine....fix it right and you will never want to part with it...

Gav

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Re: Problems starting!

Sadly away for a couple of days on work but look forward to getting home to work on the problem. Thank you for all the help guys, I  really am very appreciative of any help , but it always suprises me how generous you all are.

I will defiantly check the basic problems first that you have all mentioned and then if the problem is still there I will look for further help. Would you then recommend visting the 'G class centre' in Malvern ? .. spoke to one very friendly guy there on the phone who gave me great advice before.

 Also want manual would you recommend buying ?

 

 

 

Steve Kirk
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Hi Alex

 

A lot of the manuals you need can be found in PDF ,,,,here:

 

http://www.fourbyfourclub.com/Manual.htm

 

regards

 

Steve

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Re: Problems starting!

Kev James at Stuttgart Garage in Pontypridd is just as far, and he knows his way around g-wagens too.

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As everyone else said, do the basics first.

On anything second hand, I always do the "must do anyway" first before changing settings, digging deeper.

Unless you know the vehicle, do a full service, change all filters (especially fuel if the pump is loud).

Might as well get new plugs, leads, cap and rotor - cheap insurance for the future.

Replace fuel with fresh - modern unleaded goes off with time.

Once the above is done, look at the mixture or get someone to. Someone who knows how, ie for a start they need to own a CO tester.