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Mercedes announces the G 55K AMG with the 5.5 litre V8 compressor engine and 476 BHP :shock:

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Oh WOW ! :shock: I wouldn't want to go green laning in that one, at least, not if I owned it. Press vehicle? Fair Game! :D

Can you imagine the effect something like that would have on the BMW and Subaru "boy-racers", howling past them on its way up the third lane of the motorway. Yeah, well, nice, albeit highly illegal, thought. 8)

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Oh yes, you could certainly upset a few boys in their beemers, with one of those. Dread to think of the mpg though :lol:

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Oh yes, you could certainly upset a few boys in their beemers, with one of those. :lol:
Aye but I think they would have the last laugh when they pass you on a tight corner and you end up in a field with your wheels in the air and hangliding with your seatbelt. :lol: Looks like a lot of plastic under that bonnet, yuk!

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I agree. Yuk! What in gods name does anyone need with an engine like that in an off roader? I hear mutterings about G's being sluggish, well my 230GE is quite fast enough for me( there is a speed limit), it tows two horses in their box as though they weren't there! It goes over seriously bad terrain with ease. Who in their right mind would drive 2.5 tons of G at over the ton?

Why are the windows so heavily tinted - the beauty of the G is the superb all round visibility.

I get the impression from the pics that the ground clearance is reduced - am I right Jesus?

If MB wants to impress me they should put axles and gears on that can take being difflocked on dry surfaces without getting damaged by wind up, and variable ride height adjustment from road height to extreme clearance height. They've got the technology, but like all modern car makers they cant see past BHP. Real performance is a measure of what they are capable of!

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I would'nt mind having one

and I definitely would'nt mind having the money to buy one,,,,,,,,,,maybe when it is twenty years old.
My windows are tinted,since before I got it and I can see out fine,but one day I was sitting in the back seat reading a manual at work,and my boss came along and walked straight past without seeing me,so the tints have their uses.
I do'nt think MB are too bothered about impressing those of us driving old 460s,but I would'nt mind picking one up in Germany and driving home via autobahn,at 100 mph
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Re: I would'nt mind having one

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and I definitely would'nt mind having the money to buy one,,,,,,,,,,maybe when it is twenty years old.
My windows are tinted,since before I got it and I can see out fine,but one day I was sitting in the back seat reading a manual at work,and my boss came along and walked straight past without seeing me,so the tints have their uses.
I do'nt think MB are too bothered about impressing those of us driving old 460s,but I would'nt mind picking one up in Germany and driving home via autobahn,at 100 mph
bob
Would'nt we all like the money !!! ( what kind of manual was it you were studying, hope it was'nt XXX rated ) :lol: I'd invest in something more practical. As John says, I think it's well O.T.T. :shock: It does look good though. Why has'nt Greeney brought up the environmental issues on this one? :lol: :lol: :lol: l

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I wouldn't buy it even if I had all the money in the world..

I wouldn't buy it even if I had all the money in the world.....

I would buy a G400 CDI LWB which I would fit with the fabric seats and 16" wheels from a G320 and decent mud tyres.

And I would use it off-road, even if it means scratching its immaculate paintwork, 'cause that's what it was designed for.

Please forgive me if I offend someone out there, but to me the G500 and G55 (with- or without compressor) are a bit pimp-mobiles -never ever driven off the road-, but if they help keeping the current G-Wagen alive (by means of a great demand in the USA) so let be it.

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Completly agree Jesús. I'll have the 400cdi over any of the petrol option. A 400cdi without all the electric gizmo's. Heated seats!, believe me the last part of my body that needs heating, is my butt, unless ofcourse it's done by the southing massaging of my loved one (opps wrong forum :wink: :lol: ) A basic 400cdi would do me very nicely for a long time.

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mark wrote:
unless ofcourse it's done by the southing massaging of my loved one (opps wrong forum :wink: :lol: ) .

I wouldn't say it was the wrong forum - there's quite a bit of butt massaging in here!!! :twisted:

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gents,

just came back from a trip to oz. bought a couple of magazines down there, not only about 4x4, but also about utes (oz word for pick ups) and holden commodors (opel/vauxhaul omega and i think the smallest caddi is the same as well).
in one of the mags i found an article, about europeans and there fable for diesel engines and because of the torque that this diesel virus could hit australia as well very soon.
good bless australia, because it WONT.
petrol prices are the same down there as they're here. with the only difference that down there you get a gallon for your money, and here a liter.
therefore this sick "i'm en voque and smarter than the others, because i save money on my diesel" crap wont go down to the 5th continent.
have you noticed that there is a fair amount of more post's in the diesel forum than there is in the petrol one. why do you think that's the case? do you really think there are more civil diesel g's arround than petrol ones???? i don't think so.
it's just that the petrols in general are more reliable, and therfore people don't have to write about tech stuff that often. take a GE 300 for example. every 200'000 km a new headgasket, and every now and than a new waterpump. that's it.
and the diesel-lobby !?! : nobody ever made a calculation for exchanged engines, turbos, intercoolers and and and vs. the few bucks they may save on fuel. if you put you're own work (in paid hours) into that calculation, the fakt that you got to drive another vehicle while your G is in the garage, and the fact that with same motor volume a diesel need to squeeze 80% of peek power in the same time a petrol does it with 65% of peek, very soon you'll realiaze: the petrol is cheaper.
(and i have not even started talking about the sound of an engine, the black stuff from the exhaust and and and..)

don't get me wrong here: obviously you can drive whatever you want, and there are for sure some very, very nice diesel G's out there. but don't you think that this is just one milimeter better than a petrol one. and than for the last time the G400. well it's got better, over the last 2 years, much better. that doesn't mean at all that it is a good car right now, it just means: that not like in 2001 ALL the G400 are frequently back at mercedes for changing turbos, injectionssystems or even entire engines, but only every 10th or so.
that's a fact. i personally know 8 people who owned a G400, and 6 have G500's right know, because they were just fed up with this car. some of you might know TH, he's only one of them. the remaining 2 people i know with G400 are looking to sell it.
another fact (beside a very anoying turbo-hole that's big enough to park a swb G500 in it) : have you ever heard about the odd 20 G63 12zylinders that AMG did. do you know how heavy they're ? 20 kg lighter than a G400. any more questions?
and one thing you can forget rightaway: G400 without eletronics. all the mercedes car's that have 400cdi engine in it, are complete can-bus cars. that means you won't be able to work on the engine of you car your self, unless you have a higher degree in computer-technics. so just dump the idea, ok?!

so for the rest: G500, G55 and so on wasn't build to go off road, but only for pimps.
aha, interesting. on the last few north africa-rallies, what do you think what type of G's where arround? diesels ? muahhahaha....
so for the legendary trips from the german g-club. do you really think there weren't any G500 arround, going wild in patagonia or east russia ??? or may be it was almost only G500's becuase the driver's of those don't give a f*** about a couple of grand for a 2 week holiday and a ruined car afterwards....
well, make your own minds gents.

once again: most certainly i don't want to offend anybody here, and for some people a 240GD is just the right thing, and i respekt that, but on the other hand you got to realise that the criterias people choose cars for may be different, and you should respekt that.
(for excample: the engine sound is one of the criterias i have when buying a car. ...and yes, you can lough about that now, if you want...my G just sounds better anyway)

so, and now the good news for the bargain-hunters:
with the G55K arriving, the prices for used normally aspirated (in german so called: "Sauger" : engl: "sucker" ) G55's will fall dramaticly, and you'll be able to buy for (almost) small money a good 350HP G.

have a good week folks, it just started....
rgds
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Burn it while you can!!!

Nice one Flo!!!, I too love my sparkplugs, when you think about it, we are only round this way once,( unless re-incarnated as a hamster or somthing!!) so why not shell out a few more quid and enjoy the petrol rush

HG, :wink: 280GE

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I must agree with Flo regarding the reasons we run G's, and I must be at the far other end of the spectrum,I bought my old G (84) to tow all sorts of rubbish,felled trees,old trailers,grass topper,chain harrow etc etc without worrying about the damage,it cost me 2k 3 years ago and throughout the Summer lives on Roscoff docks for the most part, no-one scratches it or tries to pinch it, I can leave it 3 Months and it will start first time and best of all when its in the UK I run it on all sorts of stuff, cooking oil (new or used) mostly because I think f--k the gov't and their fuel tax and one day if some keen nosed bobby smells the fumes and it gets confiscated I've lost 2k over 3/4 years, still cheap motoring I think but best of all it still goes like a train and I love it more than my newer one,it just NEVER goes wrong. :lol:

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Who rattled his ( G 560 ) cage !!! I've never read so much cr*p. Strip away all the plastic, wiring etc. you'll find an engine is an engine is an engine. The only new ideas are environmental. All the technical stuff was sorted out years ago. The reason I have a diesel is I ACTUALLY like the sound. It's very comforting to hear the chug chug chug of a big waterlogged diesel engine above the farting and banging of a slightly damp petrol :twisted: Sorry John ( it's just a wind up ) :wink: Chill out and go with the FLO ! All the way to Australia for a couple of magazines. Don't they have any in Bavaria :lol:

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chazz, my dear old rustbucket (or is that your car?),

you seem to have an inside knowledge about engines. especially on newer cdi's of merc. did you design and construct it? well, in this case i'm not wondered anymore.

i'm afraid you got my message wrong. that must be because of my poor english. if you say you never read so much cr*p before, well than it's got to be my bad english.
just wonder why the others were able to read it, the way i meant it?!?
however, just wanted to let you know that i'm happy that you're satisfied with your car and that you do like the sound of it. this is most important, because you drive arround with it most of the time. so when you're happy with the sound (end the performance on and offroad ) of your car, and i'm happy with the sound and the performance of mine than we're both happy, and the world is a good place and even in australia people can look forward to a good future (without diesel cars). fantastic.

it's always good to know positive thinking people that are satisfied with their lives and cars. next time you're arround in germany, give me a buzz and i take you to one of the monthly club-meetings of the bavarian g-wagen-club ( www.g-club-sued.de ) and you can meet a hell lot more happy G-drivers with their diesel and mainly non-diesel G's.
just magazines about cars are not good to buy arround here. (this is why we get them from all arround the world). somehow we seem to be better in building cars, rather than writing about them (any language).

c u arround my friend
flo

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If you are that desperate for some bling bling get something that’s good at it. E.G an X5, that Porsche/VW thing (Toureg that some one has taken an angle grinder to and replaced the front with a 911) or even a Range Rover.

That G is just pathetic the original engineers must either be rolling in their graves or hanging their heads in shame. But if it makes a buck or 2 I guess anyone in the motor industry would sell their Granny.

Petrol V Diesel. Got both and both have their merits and a good diesel can be fun. Note GOOD. Most are poo. Maybe a V10 Toureg would be fun and in real life driving would make most petrol’s look silly.

Re. Petrol G’s they are soo cheap compared to their counter parts. Where’s the economy if it’s only used for say <10k miles per year?

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If you are that desperate for some bling bling get something that’s good at it. E.G an X5, that Porsche/VW thing (Toureg that some one has taken an angle grinder to and replaced the front with a 911) or even a Range Rover.

you're so right on that. it's just that i don't have enough money, and therfore i can't afford two cars. so i had to find a way where i can have the offroadperformance of a G and still this bling bling thing in one car. (you see, i'm in banking, and i simply would loose my job, if i would show up in a rotten G at a customers place ...)
down you can see my bling bling G (only for the customers (and because i like it my self a bid)) with bling bling alloys, bling bling bull bar, bling bling window tinting, bling bling V8 engine and a less bling bling but serious suspension and way less bling bling BFG MT's.
fairly good compromise for somebody poor like me, don't you think ?

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That G is just pathetic the original engineers must either be rolling in their graves or hanging their heads in shame. But if it makes a buck or 2 I guess anyone in the motor industry would sell their Granny.

well, almost 100% right again. it isn't pethatic, but not too good for offroading anymore.
you're right though on the motor industrie. i think this is because it's their job to do so.
build cars, and than sell them. that's what the motor industrie usually does. so does mercedes. and because there are buyers for these type of cars ( not necassary grannies), they build it, and sell it. because they get money for it. they would be quite stupid, if they wouldn't build and sell it. don't you think?

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Petrol V Diesel. Got both and both have their merits and a good diesel can be fun. Note GOOD. Most are poo. Maybe a V10 Toureg would be fun and in real life driving would make most petrol’s look silly.

couldn't agree more. V10 diesel touareg blows them all. did test ist. pure fun!

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Re. Petrol G’s they are soo cheap compared to their counter parts. Where’s the economy if it’s only used for say <10k miles per year?

and right again. no comment needed.

gosh russ, that's 3.5 points out of 4. congrats, i've got hope for you.

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So as the owner of a fanatically clean and sh*te-free G500 (my 5th G so far), i shouldn't even begin to mention the 20" Atev alloys on 60 series rubber then :oops: ?

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So as the owner of a fanatically clean and sh*te-free G500 (my 5th G so far), i shouldn't even begin to mention the 20" Atev alloys on 60 series rubber then :oops: ?

:wink:

cup15t, you've got it. actually in europe you're not even allowed to identify your self with your car, because a clean G 500 isn't even a G in the scene.
go back to kingsroad in chelsea, speek with your (false) friends with money and porsches (because non of those genetleman can be real friends, only others with no money can) and don't you ever allow yourself again to bother real g-drivers with your useless alloy sh*t. the g-scene doesn't want you, because you've got no clue from the car, and what it was designed for (even if you had 5 others before that). go away.
nobody want's you. you're a shame for the entire G-Community. mercedes shouldn't have build the car you're driving. and YOU, you shouldn't have put on those rims, you clown. now don't you tell us that it might look good, that doesen't matter. no one here drive's a g because of it's look. NO-ONE !! so again, determine your membership in the GWOA, don't raise your hand when seeing other G's on road again, don't go to G-Meetings, espacially not with your shiny 20" alloys. nobody want's to see that.
man your lucky that you're alive and the scene is civilised. somewhere else you could have been killed just by saying you've got 20ies on your G. so you better shut up.
hide your car when seeing others, and don't pretent to be a G fan. how dare you are.
unbelivable. as soon as got a little bid of money, they do usless things with it, and turn their back to the basis. pahhhh.

-tilt-

for all of those who didn't get it:
i'm still working on my black english humor, so it's not perfect as yet :wink:

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Correct!!!

I've only had neg comments from a GM/H2 driver who said it was too small :shock:

Most other G owners understand that it's my motor and i'll do what the feck I like with it, and of course my wife can go shopping in it without needing wellies or a trip to Sketchleys :wink:

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My god that is spooky, how G560 knew all that. But you did confiim it with:

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I've only had neg comments from a GM/H2 driver who said it was too small

You actually know someone with a H2!!

As for G560. Please don't make me eat humble pie by posting more pic's.

Oh BTW saw someone flicking through his Cayenne brochure at the weekend. Very conspicuously of course. How I laughed.

Russ

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G560 wrote:

for all of those who didn't get it:
i'm still working on my black english humor, so it's not perfect as yet :wink: :lol: Flo, better with black Scottish humor it's got more bite :wink: If I need a bit of adrenalin rush as lets face it, my rustbucket ( your right, that's my G not me ) is a slug, I just jump on a bus :lol: Well no that's not true, I get on my bike and let rip :shock: It's far more fun than a G will ever be. oops !!! I'm for it now :shock:

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Got a bike Chazz? I've got a Genesis FZR 1000 and a GSX400. Totally different to G, but only in summertime! Watch those new Gatsos and mobiles they're putting around the Borders though. No good on rough though!

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As much as I like this forum, please try to keep the swearing out, even if it is C**t and F**k, its not on chaps. anyway as much as i love the idea of a V8 be it petrol or diesel, the 400CDI will not be with us for long, it has had many problems, especially with overheating, and that comes from the horses mouth at CDB. Shame but there you are.

Na Nite you W****kers.

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I never said C**t or F**k and certainly not Wan**rs Peter. I might have said S**t but thats coz I'm usually in it!

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Got a bike Chazz? I've got a Genesis FZR 1000 and a GSX400. Totally different to G, but only in summertime! Watch those new Gatsos and mobiles they're putting around the Borders though. No good on rough though!
Aye John, a VF750 Sabre, American imported shafty wi a bit o' bling bling as they say :lol: Summertime job anawe. Getting too auld an wise to ride in the cauld, anyway that's the rustbuckets joab, init. Yon genesis must be gid fun bit a canna ride e*se ( sorry Ian, Scottish sweery wurd ) up cause ae' ma neck ( awe pare wee lamb ). You must be daein awricht wae the saddles then, a mean a G Wagen, twae bikes an probably mare bit yer too modest tae brag, eh ! :wink:

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Some more pics.... from http://www.mercedes-forum.com


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Extreme Bling Bling

http://www.fuh2.com/

You gota laugh.
Rest my case about the motor industry and the junk they will flog to dumb and his mate dumber.

Russ

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www.fuh2.com

Excellent site!

Unfortunately, you know that sometime in the future, the neon-driving redneck flag-waver that runs FUH2 is going to empty a few angry barrels into some poor sod that just happens to have made the choice to buy an H2. Come back soon now y'all.

Penis envy and small US man syndrome is a frightening combination...

Cubist (6'7" and hung like a horse of course :wink: )

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New GM-mobile the H3T... that'll piss him off!!! :shock:

(i think the missing letters behind nannies ** may be I and S :wink: )

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OK serious head on now. On the one hand it is amusing to watch people throw money away on consumer junk. H2 or indeed any Chevy (only driven Chevy’s not H2) are completely superficial. No depth of engineering (exact opposite to the G) quality? I’ve seen better quality switch gear in Toys r Us. Environmental impact? Who gives a stuff.
Used as battering ram's against other road users ( if they are in some economy box they must be poor so who cares if they are 24 times more likely to die in an accident with an SUV) again who gives a stuff?

Re. www.fuh2.com. Maybe just a laugh. BUT..........read recently that about the only DOMESTIC terrorist group in the USA happens to be a bunch of anti SUV nuts. Their actions to date have targeted dealers. FBI are now taking an interest on the basis that thier actions have been or will soon be life threatening.

Extremism breeds extremism? Are we next?

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Dowload your 25 Aniversary Edition G55 K brochure

Download your copy of the 25 Aniversary Edition G55 K brochure in .pdf format in this link:

http://www.mercedes-benz.com/omb/d/cars/g-class/special04/content/16934_Kat_G55_AMG.pdf

Enjoy!

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petrol or diesel

Flo

I would like to ask you one question. Why do you think Lorries (or to you Lkw's) througout the world are fitted with diesel engines and not with petrol engines? If, as you say a petrol engine is more reliablel etc. all haulage companies (to you again Spediteure)must be mad including the manufacturers. Any thoughts on that? Diesel engines peform for decades very well doing heavy work in Ships, Lorries and Plant Machinery. By the end of the day it is a choice of the person wanting to buy a vehicle, petrol or diesel powered. And as it is with everything else, your engine will be only as good as it's service history and your driving style.

Klaus

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klaus,

good to hear from you again @ first. hope you're doing all right in the far northwest...
but let me come back to your one question. what you say is absolutely right. in trucks, and big ships and other big vehicles a diesel engine makes more sence because of it's economy and (when driven appropriate, like you outlined) reliability. however, that big G beast, which was originally designed as a "worker" is now mostly used by privates who just wanna have a boxy car, with superior off-road capabilities and enough steam under the bonnet. i think that one of the problem's was that they (merc) just used their diesel-car-engines. and they used these engines in a (mini-)truck.
toyota for example went another way, they had alway's big (4.2 liter) normally aspirated diesel truck engines in their HZJ's and HDJ's. now when someone is trying to use a diesel G as a standart car in germany, he might have to drive the car @ 80-100% of peek power just to keep the traffic fluent. it's even worse in the dunes. when traveling with petrol and diesel G's in the desert, you'll realise that the diesel G drivers will allways have to put the pedal to the metal, to get something going. on a longterm that will ruin the engine, when it's to small..(for the waight of the car).
sure, now you can say:" it's the driver ", and you'd be right on that. but that's just like how most drivers are, and this is why since 98 more than half of the production is the G in V8.
the G400 is in theory just about right, (big torque diesel engine) but for some reason up to 2002 they didn't get it under control. apparently they've got it all sorted now, i just wouldn't bet on it. (personal opinion....)

anyway, one more time, i didn't want to offend anybody, and as said, diesel works quite well in some cases...

rgds
flo