Green 461 on the bay at moment

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Nice looking w461 on ebay at the moment very rare indeed

 

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Very nice indeed and it ought to have the main faults of the w460 resolved. Rather than having Steyr Puch running gear it has SP badges, These could be changed, I wouldn't bother though it might simplify insurance. Trying to get insurance on an SP will confuse the insurers. Interior much more hard wearing than the w463, does anyone know if the rear seat is bullet proof like in the w460? cheeky

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These are very desirable fully loaded , cruise , central locking etc.

461 just a better 460 with some incremental chassis improvements

Steyr wwas just branding by importer ,the Pinzgauer maker

There have been earlier detailed posts on these vehicles

The power train - sprinter 602 rotary pump ecu throttle and auto is bomb proof

HOWEVER these G's are dissapointing and sluggish on the road , as well as low geared and juicy

I WOULD LOVE TO GET MY HANDS ON ONE AND GET THE POWER UP BUT THE ROTARY PUMP ( v57? )is a one off

Also the auto is the older type 4 speed with1:1 top gear

Verdict . Yes but...

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Yes thats' the one.

I have the same spec vehicle - just a couple of years younger, it is my first g and my daily drive is a sprinter 311cdi which is very quick even when loaded.

My G290 TD is not far behind and i would'nt call it sluggish at all and loves to be loaded with all my crap.

its still got plenty of pull at 70 and is very enjoyable to drive.

The sprinter engine in the 290 is super reliable and easy to  maintain and i love the sound it makes!

of course id love another gear for motorways but now having got use to the 4 speed auto box i woudln't want to go back to manual.

I guess a higher performance engine would give increased accelleration but would this use more fuel?

I get approx. 25/26mpg which i can just about stomach :0) and im sure the one advertised could achieve this if maintained properly

best regards Dave

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That's a nice truck.  nice colour, nice everything.

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Is this a turbo though and not just a NA engine?

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it has a variant of the OM602 sprinter engine with factory turbo produces 120HP and works very well.

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 Currently the highest bidder. Please wish me luck.

 Regards

 Kevin

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best of luck to you kevin.!

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  got every thing crossed for you kevincoolyes

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Good Luck with your bid!

Spec is 122BHP/280NM

​Really good and long lasting engine with the correct maintenance. Full synthetic oil, 50/50 MB Antifreeze (others eat up the headgasket). Looked after, it's good for way beyond 500k miles untouched. Not looked after, they self destruct at below 100k. Most common cause incorrect anti freeze, headgasket leak internal, shut down hot water on piston, full on hydraulic on start up.

Auto box is of industrial quality and virtually indestructible.

Huge advantage offroad, especially with rev limiter on the engine which limits gear "range" in a manual.

Injection can be turned 100% mechanical without too much difficulty (pump, injectors, turn down boost a tad and throw away the ecu).

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With all the above said, has anyone been to look at it? Is it for definite a factory turbo version even?

If it's not, then what I said above would be just poo sadno

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thanks to Gavin for this information i believe this vehicle is in the list

 

mine isnt on it though.

 

best regards

Dave

 

The first ten G290TD in RHD i have as follows....

1997 461.322 G290TD 3400mm SINGLE CAB 3000 FLAME RED (SPECIAL FINISH)

1997 461.336 G290TD 2850mm WAGON 6891 ALEXANDRITE GREEN

1997 461.336 G290TD 2850mm WAGON 9143 SNOW WHITE

1998 461.326 G290TD 2850mm PANEL VAN 9143 SNOW WHITE

1998 461.322 G290TD 3400mm SINGLE CAB 3000 FLAME RED (SPECIAL FINISH)

1998 461.336 G290TD 2850mm WAGON 6815 AGATE GREEN

1998 461.321 G290TD 3400mm DOUBLE CAB 3000 FLAME RED (SPECIAL FINISH)

1998 461.321 G290TD 3400mm DOUBLE CAB 3000 FLAME RED (SPECIAL FINISH)

1998 461.326 G290TD 2850mm PANEL VAN 9143 SNOW WHITE

1999 461.336 G290TD 2850mm WAGON 3003 ALFA ROMEO RED (SPECIAL FINISH)

Followed by 11 more 1999 461.321 G290TD 3400mm DOUBLE CAB'S IN 3003 ALFA ROMEO RED (SPECIAL FINISH)

Followed by 9 more 1999 461.326 G290TD 2850mm PANEL VAN'S IN 9143 SNOW WHITE

and lastly a 1999 461.366 G290TD 2850mm OPEN IN 6431 BRONZE GREEN DULL MATT making 31 in total RHD G290TD's

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Re: Green 461 on the bay at moment

Indeed a 290GDT

 

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thats a fine vehicle !

 

good luck...

 

 

rgds hus,

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Twin exhausts...

Once on the page, click on "see other items", also "feedback as seller"

No description...

Obviously needs closer inspection

Nonetheless a good post and as always, appreciated all round.

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agreed you would need to look, too few feedbacks as an e-bay seller but a permanent 4x4 option for Kev

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Got some more pictures from the owner of the green 290.

Engine bay, under side, under wheel arches.

Will post, just waiting for permission from the owner to share them.

Certainly not a rustbucket. Looks solid underneath.

Tyres are a bit of a mixed bunch.

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Please do thank you I'd like to see another uk 461

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mercfan wrote:

Indeed a 290GDT

 

Standard 290GDT Spec, Steyr Puch model,

Headlamp Wash

Auto 4 Speed

Front Fogs

Cruise

Arch Extensions

Front Tow Pin

Alloys

Electric Windows

Fire Extinguisher

Extra Corrosion Protection

Agate Green

Etc...

All good stuff...

 

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Please do thank you I'd like to see another uk 461

Anyone interested in it and wanting the pictures, at the moment, you'll have to PM me your email address, as the seller hasn't responded yet. 

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     looks like it will make 15K IMO a good buy 

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In regards the green 290.

As a service to members, the following:

I have only just managed to enlarge some of the photographs.

And my advice is this: Do not part with any payment whatsoever until you have thoroughly inspected the vehicle! 

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Thanks mercfan - although it. gone past my budget for a 5 door.

I would however welcome any thoughts you might have on the 463 up for sale tomorrow:

Scroll down, its in alphabetical order.

http://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic-auctions/saturday-5th-april-2...

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Lot 39, externally clean, good colour, side steps, sliding rear windows and bullbars are nice options. I had a cylinder head rebuild at this mileage so I would budget £1k for that. How much commission will you pay on top? Passenger seat has missing trim and you would want a proper look at the interior but 1st impressions are a decent enough motor.

has received comments on this thread too http://gwoa.co.uk/content/463-auction

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Ok, i'll throw some comments over on it's own thread.

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In regards the 290: Nothing wrong with bidding, winning the auction and then renegotiating the price on the basis of "not as described", depending on what you find. Even works with major auction houses. Omission = false statement.

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KevinStuttgart wrote:

 Currently the highest bidder. Please wish me luck.

 Regards

 Kevin

    kevin is it yours yesno

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Did you win the bidding?

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V976FPF. Thought it looked familiar. It was one of my old company car/demonstrators when I worked for ATL. In addition to importing and manufacturing Pinzgauers, we were also the authorised importers of Steyr badged  461 G-Wagons. Mercedes UK weren't particularly happy about it, but as they had virtually stopped selling the G at that time, they relented and we brought in quite a few of the more utilitarian 461 290GDT in station wagon and van formats. We also sold about eighteen "Super G" extra long wheelbase models in single and double cab layouts. Most of the latter went to fire brigades, West Sussex for example, and they had a station wagon command vehicle as well.

MBUK eventually put their foot down and stopped us importing them from Steyr as they had apparently concocted a plan to sell the 461s alongside the Unimog range as part of their utility offerings. But they never did, as far as I know. And we got on with manufacturing the Pinzgauer for world markets until BAE took us over and pulled the plug....as they do.

The Sprinter 2.9 turbo-intercooled diesel was unusual in that it had a very compact water/air intercooler. They were lovely vehicles; only available as autos and exceptionally good off road.

 

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[quote=dave0]

thanks to Gavin for this information i believe this vehicle is in the list

 

mine isnt on it though.

 

best regards

Dave

Just picked up on that comment from 4 months ago!!!

31 Steyr Puch badged 461 series 290GDT's in RHD worldwide, most if not all into the UK

222 MB badged 461 series 290GDT's in RHD worldwide, only yours Dave in the UK!!!!

86 of those to Malaysia (855)

242 MB badged 461 series 290GDT's in RHD kit form (CKD) supplied to ELBO in Greece

Can you sleep now you know you're unique? out of 495 in total?

Gav

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Brill info as usual gav best regards dave

 

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dave0 wrote:

thanks to Gavin for this information i believe this vehicle is in the list

 

mine isnt on it though.

 

best regards

Dave

 

The first ten G290TD in RHD i have as follows....

1997 461.322 G290TD 3400mm SINGLE CAB 3000 FLAME RED (SPECIAL FINISH)

1997 461.336 G290TD 2850mm WAGON 6891 ALEXANDRITE GREEN

1997 461.336 G290TD 2850mm WAGON 9143 SNOW WHITE

1998 461.326 G290TD 2850mm PANEL VAN 9143 SNOW WHITE

1998 461.322 G290TD 3400mm SINGLE CAB 3000 FLAME RED (SPECIAL FINISH)

1998 461.336 G290TD 2850mm WAGON 6815 AGATE GREEN

1998 461.321 G290TD 3400mm DOUBLE CAB 3000 FLAME RED (SPECIAL FINISH)

1998 461.321 G290TD 3400mm DOUBLE CAB 3000 FLAME RED (SPECIAL FINISH)

1998 461.326 G290TD 2850mm PANEL VAN 9143 SNOW WHITE

1999 461.336 G290TD 2850mm WAGON 3003 ALFA ROMEO RED (SPECIAL FINISH)

Followed by 11 more 1999 461.321 G290TD 3400mm DOUBLE CAB'S IN 3003 ALFA ROMEO RED (SPECIAL FINISH)

Followed by 9 more 1999 461.326 G290TD 2850mm PANEL VAN'S IN 9143 SNOW WHITE

and lastly a 1999 461.366 G290TD 2850mm OPEN IN 6431 BRONZE GREEN DULL MATT making 31 in total RHD G290TD's

 

I believe the 1998 Panel Van as above is the one I bought direct from ATL (& Hi Quercus)

It has been parked up this couple of years and I might consider selling it, post some TLC and an MOT test (the tough-love NI version btw)

Other than servicing and an autobox rebuild ,it remains factory spec unmolested.

It has the 120BHP spec Sprinter engine and drives very well indeed,

Only "boker" is the 24.?? mpg (i.e. never 23 nor 25)  tank in tank out, apparently regardless of driving style or duty

cheers

Marcus