G models and major component types

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Mon, 02/06/2014 - 20:48
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Found this schedule and thought that it might be useful to compare the major components across the G range

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Tue, 03/06/2014 - 08:43
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Re: G models and major component types

Hi Roly,

Thanks for posting, though (as usual) I have some silly questions to ask! Looking at the 500's I see different ranges for the engine:

113.962
113.982
and a 103.987 
I am assuming that the 103 was the 5ltr engine they did in the G500GE? and the 113.962 is the one in my motor (2001) and the 113.982 is the newer 500 engine?
 
And looking at the model designations I get the 463 bit, but what are the other three numbers?
463.206
463.207
XXX.240
XXX.241
 
Interesting to see they did a manual G500 once?
 
So in effect I would like to know how to read the document, or am I starting to get too nerdy?
 
Many thanks
Spider1V
 
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Tue, 03/06/2014 - 08:52
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Re: G models and major component types

Roly,

Being a complete engine novice and a 463 owner I found this a really useful document and have stored it away.

My Vin Number is WDB 46322827095800 registered 27/5/1994 which I believe makes it one of the later RHD 463's.

It is badged a G300 rather than a 300G so the 3.0 petrol is a 103.987 with a 4 speed 722.397 auto gearbox?

(Hopefully Sherlock is back from Tipperary and will be able to advise smiley....lets see some photos Gavlar as it sounds like an epic road trip...)

I also see that the 463.308 has the 606.964 Diesel Engine which presumably would have only been a factory option in the LHD G300's ?

Would also be interested if there is any option on the G300 463 for a 5 Speed autobox....I've probably asked this before as well...

Finally......................some really great threads and pictures on the forum lately.

Regards

Tim

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Tue, 03/06/2014 - 12:00
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Re: G models and major component types

Spider - Here's my take on these figures:

113.962: early G500 engine (5.0)

113.982 early G55 (non-kompressor 5.5)

113.993 later G55 (kompressor)

Latest G500 engine is M273 I think, 5.5L.

 

M103.987 was the old 300GE/G300 petrol engine, which was available with manual, unlike the M113s.

 

The very early 500GEs had the M117 engine according to Google :)

 

The numbers after the 46X are very useful for wheelbase and fuel type:

http://4x4abc.com/Mercedes-Benz.G-Class.manuals/vin_coding.html

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Tue, 03/06/2014 - 12:00
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Tim,

Yours is a proper late car - not just registered late but actually produced late, as many of the 1993 (K-reg) ones were still built in 1991 but only sold to the general public a couple of years later.

For comparison a 300GE from 1991 (H-reg) has a VIN that ends in 76xxx so yours is about 20,000 vehicles later ~ 2 years of production.

The badging switched from XXX GE to G XXX in model year 1994 but the G300 petrols are a very limited series as they were soon replaced by the 320 (M104) in 1995, except for those still assembled in Indonesia which I think were made till 1996/7.

You are right with the engine/transmission numbers, the 5-speed auto starts with 722.6 and wasn't available with the 300 (M103) engine as far as I recall.

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Tue, 03/06/2014 - 12:24
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M2dxb,

Thanks for that it puts logic into my thoughts............... a really useful link that I am sure others will benefit from.

What were the 722.6 auto boxes built for?

Tim

 

 

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Tue, 03/06/2014 - 22:59
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Sure you're most welcome, I in turn thank Harald for mining this information out of the many folders he has on the G.

 

From that document (and wikipedia):

The first G320 (1995-1996) had the M104 inline 6 with 722.3 4-speed auto.

Later G320s (1997) used the V6 M112 engine with 722.6 5-speed auto. This was also the transmission used on all other Gs of that era (G500/55 petrol, G270/300/400 Diesel).

This transmission for most of the early 2000s was the most common transmission MB used, available on all the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_5G-Tronic_transmission#Applic...

 

Back to the G, the 7-speed auto (722.9) was introduced in 2006/7 with the new 5.5 V8 engine (M273), as Mercedes tend to bundle new engines/transmissions together. The 722.6 however continued in the 55 AMG versions because the 7-speed could not handle all the torque.

When AMG moved to the 63 engine (actually a 6.2! Codename M156) they also ditched the 5-speed auto in favour of the new 7-speed. In 2013 they introduced the 9-speed auto but who knows when it will show up in the G.

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