Front Axle Repair Kit

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aymn7
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Dears

  I want to repair my front axle ( G-463). I found this kit on the internet

http://www.eurotruck-importers.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&prod...

 1- As my left front wheel is leaking,I don't see the oil seals in this kit

2- The bearing item ( 56 ? ) also required 

 

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Ayman

 

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Re: Front Axle Repair Kit

There is no such thing as a kit by Mercedes Benz. This so called kit is a compellation by the vendor to sell these items as a kit for the layman's understanding.

Considering the job you intend doing will cost some 5.5 hrs in labour, it would be prudent to replace the King Pin (K/P) bearings as a matter of course.

Items for the K/P include 50, 53 and 56. You will need additionally, gasket 86, seal 83, seal 65 and items listed as 59 and 62.

Not shown on your illustration is CV boot and clips which you may need and the only way to know you need these is when you have stripped down.

The kit has not included the locking nuts and not illustrated on EPC picture you have downloaded; you may need them as required.

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Hi

Typical 463 Front Hub Set up...

A0159970147 Inner Hub Seals 2 required
A0159977947 Outer Hub Seals 2 required

N070852 030000 Axle Hub Nut 4 required
A4609940112 Axle Hub Nut Lock Washers 2 required
A4603370485 CV Boots 2 required

A4603370092 CV Boot Clamp 2 required

A4603370192 CV Boot Clamp 2 required
A0099972847 Inner Axle Seals 2 required

A4603310180 Steering Ball Seals 2 required
A4603310080 Steering Ball Gaskets 2 required
A4633340159 Front Hub Dust Seal 2 required
A0099814105 Inner Wheel Bearing 2 required

A0099816105 Outer Wheel Bearing 2 required
 

A0009815905 Kingpin Bearings 4 required
A4603320033 Kingpin Caps 4 required
A4609970040 Kingpin Seals 4 required
 

W463589000700 Axle Hub Nut Tool

Let me know if you need more help, or UK prices etc

PM me your chassis number and i can double check the numbers but 99.9% sure there OK

Gav

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Re: Front Axle Repair Kit

Sorry to interject on this thread;

 

Gav, any chance you could compile a similar list for the 460 front axle, please?

Am I right in thinking that some of the front and rear parts are interchangeable (as per landrovers)?  I know one is disc and the other drum, but bearings and inner seals?

 

cheers

 

Jamie

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diesel_jim wrote:

Sorry to interject on this thread;

 

Gav, any chance you could compile a similar list for the 460 front axle, please?

Am I right in thinking that some of the front and rear parts are interchangeable (as per landrovers)?  I know one is disc and the other drum, but bearings and inner seals?

 

cheers

 

Jamie

List on its way....

Front and rear are chalk and cheese...

Do you need rear also?

Gav

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Hi

Typical 460 Front Hub Set up...

A0079970347 Inner Hub Seals 2 required
A0079970447 Outer Hub Seals 2 required
A4609900260 Axle Hub Nut 4 required
A4609940012 Axle Hub Nut Lock Washers 2 required
A4603370485 CV Boots 2 required

A4603370092 CV Boot Clamp 2 required

A4603370192 CV Boot Clamp 2 required
A0099972847 Inner Axle Seals 2 required
A4603310180 Steering Ball Seals 2 required
A4603310080 Steering Ball Gaskets 2 required
A4603340259 Front Hub Dust Seal 2 required
A0089816005 Inner Wheel Bearing 2 required

A0089815905 Outer Wheel Bearing 2 required

A0009815905 Kingpin Bearings 4 required
A4603320033 Kingpin Caps 4 required
A4609970040 Kingpin Seals 4 required
 

W460589000700 Axle Hub Nut Tool

Let me know if you need more help, or UK prices etc

PM me your chassis number and i can double check the numbers but 99.9% sure there OK

Gav

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Re: Front Axle Repair Kit

460 Rear Hub Seal kit with Bearing is A601 350 04 68 same both side and the same as the T1 Van (single rear wheel)

Hub end gasket is A601 357 50 80 same both sides but comes in the above kit

Front and Rear Axle Pinion Seals used to be a twin seal (inner / outer) but replaced by a single double seal A017 997 55 47 which is T1 again and both the same

Don't forget the collapsable Spacer Tube in the Pinion that needs to be the correct torque and that there are 2 types of Pinion Nut A601 351 00 72 Early and A601 351 01 72 Late

Front or Rear Axle Pan Gasket is A601 351 00 80 ... T1 again and both the same

Front and Rear Axle Drain and Fill plugs A352 997 00 32 all 4 the same

463 seems all the same in general with exception of the Front Axle Fill and Drain Plugs? A000 997 62 32

Keep them coming....

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Re: Front Axle Repair Kit

Going to squirrel this info away for my 460, cheers Gav! 

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Re: Front Axle Repair Kit

Thanks Rakesh, you are an encyclopedia in G class !

I'm interested to know how you gained your knowledge 

Thanks Gav, I will send you the VIN

up to my knowledge, 461 & 463 have the same axle but the brake discs are different

460's axle has thinner shafts than those in the 463

Ayman

This link describes the front axle assembly

http://www.auto-parts.spb.ru/webcat/oem_mb2.asp?TP=2&F=463245&A=750.654&...

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Hi

Got your vin...

I don't know that they are thinner, if the bearing etc are the same they can't be?

I do know that nearly all the 463's shafts are longer by 50mm to make the track wider

Will post up the 461 list for yours later

Where in the world are you?

Gav

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Thanks Gav.

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diesel_jim wrote:

Thanks Gav.

You're welcome Jimbo ;)

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Hi Ayman

Your 1995 461.338 series 290GD is the same set up as 460 series (late)

It has the standard narrow track axles that the 460's had.

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It would seem that the very early production 70's 460's had one type of seal set up... quite unique.

All the later 80's onwards 460's had the one listed in this thread...

A few late 80's 463's had the late 460 set up...

Most of the 90's 463's had the type again listed above with wider track...

All the 80's / 90's / early 00's 461's had the later 460 type as above

I have not bothered looking at any late 00's 461's or 463 from the 00's due to lack of required rebuilds and low volumes out there...

It would appear that even the 460 / 463 are the same in all the major parts, only the Hub Nut and Socket the Hub Nut Lock Washer differ along with a Hub Dust Rubber Seal...

Gav

 

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Re: Front Axle Repair Kit

Thanks Gav for the valuable information 

so I have to go for the 460's parts not 463's

Could  you please send me a photo for

W460589000700 Axle Hub Nut Tool ?

Ayman

 

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aymn7 wrote:

Thanks Rakesh, you are an encyclopedia in G class !

I'm interested to know how you gained your knowledge ................

Ayman

I am not unique with knowledge on G-Wagens, there are some others' who choose to keep lower profiles with knowledge too but in my case what I have learned and gained experience is through working on them full time for some 13 years.

Even dealership mechanics have not had as much exposure to G-Wagens as I can claim as they would see a few, depending on dealerships area and local G-Wagen population. The dealership mechanic do have an advantage and that is they have ready and easy access to any information they want where we have, had to beg for information and use as many available contacts, use favours to gain our information. This information is available provided one pays for the fees asked. And largely, knowledge has been gained through experience.

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aymn7 wrote:

..............................Could  you please send me a photo for

W460589000700 Axle Hub Nut Tool ?

Ayman

 

It is possible to grind out the profile onto an old socket using the lock nut as template.

Sorry for the delay in posting photos, I have only just learned on how to post links.

 

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Re: Front Axle Repair Kit

Thanks Pistonhead and Gav for replying

experience in G class requires solving many problems and years of  a hard work

Luckily I have found the Axle hub tool with my mechanic .

We have replaced the wheel's bearings and the oil seal.

Unfortunately we found that the left front shaft was worn.There is a slight clearance between the shaft and the sleeve.

I believe that there is periodic preventive maintenance for the axles.

How often should I inspect the axle(s) ? 

Ayman

Sorry for the late reply, I was getting email notifications from the group but it stopped 

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The is no maintenance as such for the axles except checking for diff oil level every 12,000 miles and the checking correcting of grease levels in hubs every two years. Assuming wheel bearing play and king pin play will be checked at every 12,000 miles;  that is all which is scheduled.

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