Engine difference between G 280 CDI and G 300 CDI

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I'm interested in purchase a used G-Wagen and transform it into a long range travel / Expedition veichle.

I'm confused about which model best suit my needs and is more reliable.

I found an interesting G 280 CDI EDITION30.Pur with Offroad Package 2. I was tempted to buy it but a guy warn me that it's better to choose the G 300 Professional because the engine is more reliable thanks to a factory added oil cooler and a different ECU that allow better handling of the faults and limp mode.

Which in your opinion is the more reliable engine ? Which model you suggest to buy ?

Thanking in advance for any advice,

Mario

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Re: Engine difference between G 280 CDI and G 300 CDI

Hello Mario, 

It may be possible an answer may not be got from the UK as we do not have; as far as I am aware any 280CDI's G-Wagens' in the UK. 

A clue to your answer is to see what reports come out from the saloon versions of these engines being employed. Remember G-Wagen engines are somewhat similar to saloon models save for the the fact when employed in G-Wagens the compression ration is reduced a little to compromise for off-roading performance.

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Re: Engine difference between G 280 CDI and G 300 CDI

the following could be of interest:  http://www.mercedes-g-entdecker.com/

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Re: Engine difference between G 280 CDI and G 300 CDI

Thanks all for the advice.

The Entdecker transformation is simply outstanding but it's a really expensive vehicle.

It's actually no longer available because G280/G300 production was stopped due to the engine Euro 6 emission failure, now mandatory for new vehicle sold in Europe.

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Re: Engine difference between G 280 CDI and G 300 CDI

After some searching, I can say that both engines are basically the same except for the following:

G 280 CDI engine come with dual alternators 12V and 24V.

G 300 CDI are supplied with one 12 V 180A alternator.

G 300 CDI engine will run about 15°C hotter to better cope with Euro 5 requirement, this is the reason for the added oil cooler. The G 280 CDI is Euro 4 only.

In case of limp mode, the G 300 CDI ECU allow more power than the other engine.

 

 

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Re: Engine difference between G 280 CDI and G 300 CDI

Interesting fact that, the 24v/12v on the 280CDI.... I wondered why some of the professional Gs I'm watching on mobile.de had the 24v socket on the back of the cubby box, but the really nice green 300Cdi professional I looked at, didn't have it.

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Re: Engine difference between G 280 CDI and G 300 CDI

has nothing to do with the choice of engine but when built: from mid-2011 12v only.

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Re: Engine difference between G 280 CDI and G 300 CDI

^^^^ Ah OK....

 

24v could be useful.... less amperage draw on a winch, and decent coockers/heaters or fridges can be fitted... 24v stuff always seems better and more powerful, probably as that's what most trucks use.