Electric G-Wagen

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I thought I would start a forum thread tracking any possible future electric G.

There have been a couple of mentions of Arnie's (Terminator) Kreisel conversion

https://youtu.be/k-y5HHREoUc 

And MB stated there 'would' be an electric G 'in the next few years' -  https://uk.motor1.com/news/402975/mercedes-g-class-ev-version/ 

But that was maybe before the current situation.  

I also just heard that MB are no longer selling the G350d (463A).  Its down to the 2 8 cylinder options - G400 diesel and G63.  Pushes the entry price over the 100k GBP mark I reckon, for the UK.  Keeping exclusivity by pricing.

So back to the electric G - MB trademarked 'EQG'  and in Oct2020 there was this re-hash of the November 2019 statement:  https://youtu.be/bWEzaL6_QhA     'BA' also suggest there may be a Hybrid.  Not sure about that.

With so many G's never getting out of cities, and with emissions restrictions coming in all the time, an EQG might be the ultimate eco-statement.  It may even still work off-road.  But you can forget about touring in the wilderness.

Thoughts.

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OK - I know there isn't the infrastructure in the UK yet but there is increasing amount in Euroland and given that heavy goods vehicle manufacturers seem to prefer the idea - how about a hydrogen powered version?

 

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According to the sales folk at MB World, the EQG is the next one but they have no idea when (planned 2022 ?) and there are no pre-release pics or specs.  Anything you are seeing about it now is likely complete speculation and photoshop.

I just hope they keep it rugged, useful and not something that drives itself.

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Yes, I am thinking down that road also.  Maybe  a conversion in the future is on the cards. The front page article on today’s Times Newspaper alarmed me.  Talk of the U.K. Government socking it Diesel and Petrol owners starting next year.  I already pay £600 for road tax now. Converting existing cars I think is probably the way forward.  Looked at Arnies conversion from your link and I thought it looked quite nice.  The problem right now is it is early technology, very few doing it at this point, and what will the costs be?  Anything to do with being Green is frightfully expensive.  Instead of socking it to us, the U.K. government needs to dangle a carrot with incentives to get vehicles converted.  I would consider it since I only purchase this current G two years ago,

 

 

 

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Numbers might be small at the moment but electric/hydrogen car number are only going one way so HMG has to come up with some way to replace all that lost fuel duty/VAT.

 

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Yes, they will probably start to tax electric vehicles!

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G-Barry wrote:

Yes, they will probably start to tax electric vehicles!

Yep. Guaranteed. Just a matter of time. Ironically, I got my diesel G a couple of years ago precisely because I thought if I left it any longer it would not be possible.  

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I was quoted £25,000 plus to convert my w124 saloon. Cheaper than a Tesla I suppose but I'd never buy a Tesla either 

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Updating this thread.  There is a EQG designer interview over on the MG Private Lounge site:

https://g-class.mercedes-benz.com/en/privatelounge/exclusive-strong-stor...

Although it adds very little to what is known.  The point made was about making the EQG a little more aerodynamic (good luck with that) with the use of some small spoilers.

I still want to know and see where the spare wheel is going.  I have to assume under the bonnet.

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Here's the latest collective wisdom on the EQG...

https://topelectricsuv.com/news/mercedes-benz/mercedes-g-class-electric-...

It's taking a long while for MB to get electric...it will be passe by the time the EQG gets there :(

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As long as there are the same tax breaks then I would be keen to trade in my Tesla for one of these. The EQG580 I guess would be a longer range option and with Tesla set to open up their supercharging network by then it would be a great combination I feel.

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Its inevitable that Electic vehicles will be subject to road tax if only for the physical damage that these very heavy vehicles cause to our road networks, aside from the environmental damage the extraction of rare earth metals causes

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Sorry - I deleted a duplicate post of the above and it wiped the response from @markhowes which said:

"Its inevitable that Electic vehicles will be subject to road tax if only"

because how else are they going to replace all that lost tax on no longer existing petrol/diesel cars

 

I completely agree, and have become a little more disallusioned with the 'green' claims of electric.  Mainly because you cannot 'repair' a battery unit.  It gets junked and replaced (if it doesn't combust in the meantime).

It's certainly taking MB a long long time to deliver on their promise of EQG.

 

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Ther's an article in this months CAR magazine of a "Twisted" conversion of a LR90, 2 electric motors for 4 wheel drive and a 60+ hour Kwh battery, but get the cost £225,000

Electric Land Rover Defender Conversion | Twisted Automotive

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Another article but with the same promo video of the 360 spin 'feature'

https://www.irishtimes.com/motors/2023/03/01/test-drive-in-mercedes-new-...

Still waiting for signs of a release date.  2024 was mentioned.

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Another link/spot, as we get closer to end 2023 launch and 2024 availability:

New All-Electric Mercedes-Benz EQG SUV Caught On Cam Again (benzinsider.com) 

It's morphing back to a more standard looking G.  With an ugly front grill.  The few pricing estimates are not too wild, but I have a feeling they could be optimistic.  I'm not going to guess/speculate and give them any daft ideas.

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Some of the latest spec on the EQG - now looking like it will be available in 2024.

2025 Mercedes-Benz EQG: Reviews, Photos & Specs - Forbes Wheels 

  • First all-electric Mercedes-Benz G-Class
  • Powered by four motors paired with a two-gear transmission
  • Each motor individually controls a wheel
  • May use same 107.8 kWh battery pack as the EQS
  • Will be optionally available with a proprietary extended-range next-generation battery starting mid-decade
  • Will be built at Magna Steyr contract facility in Graz, Austria

Pros & Cons

Pros
  • “Progressive luxury” status symbol
  • Off-road prowess
  • Rugged styling
Cons
  • “Progressive conspicuous consumption” status symbol
  • Boxy design is not for everybody
  • Will likely be ridiculously expensive

 

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Electric Car Converts are doing them for the G Wagon. It is their standard LR fits. Prices and specs attached.

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Hmm. Think I'll wait for the real thing (that also leaves me time for my lottery numbers to come up) cheeky

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Gilsteamin wrote:

Electric Car Converts are doing them for the G Wagon. It is their standard LR fits. Prices and specs attached.

Big money that would cover running costs and repairs on my GE300 for a decade or more

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A slew of annoucements today:

2025 Mercedes-Benz G580 With EQ Technology: The Clumsily Named Electric G-Wagen | Cars.com 

2025 Mercedes-Benz G580 With EQ Technology: An SUV Icon Goes Electric (insideevs.com)

Potentially good news that it will be cheaper than the G63.  But still no UK details.

No longer EQG

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https://youtu.be/NwHbJ7HN1sU

 

Click on the link to see the "G Turn". Probably soon to be seen in a carpark near you !

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I just used MB configurator and the UK price for a G580 is showing as £180k. That's a lot more than promised and expected. I'm depressed! I think the G450 is now a much better option. I guess it is the 230GE of 2024. But with 350HP.

Maybe its just the Edition ONE - high spec.

Quote "Price is yet to be confirmed but expect the Edition One to cost from around £190,000, and future models from around £140k. "