DUAL MASS FLYWHEEL for 463
Does anyone know the DMFW part number for my 463 3.0 GES. I believe my engine is a M103.987 with 717.439 5 speed manual transmission.
Sherlock is looking for me but I know that he is in a great deal of pain with his back at the moment. Get well soon Gav :-(
I have been trying to see if any other DMFW’s from Mercs would fit and believe the following list of mercs all use the QKT1351AF kits that an online supplier quoted for mine.
If anyone has the part number or even a spare DMFW please give me a shout.
Other Mercs that use the QKT1352AF kit are listed below :-
280E 2.8i 24v (W124) 10/92 – 93
280TE 2.8i Kombi (T124) 10/92 – 93
300CE 3.0i Coupe (C124) 9/89 – 93
300E3.0i (W124) 9/89 – 9/92
300E 3.0i 4-Matic (W124) 9/89 – 9/92
300SE 2.8i 24v (W140) 3/93 – 9/93
300TE 3.0i Kombi (T124) 9/89 – 7/93
300TE 3.0i Kombi 4-Matic (T124) 9/89 – 7/93
300TE 3.0i 24v Kombi (T124) 9/89 – 9/92
E280 2.8i 24v (W124) 6/93 – 96
S280 2.8i 24v (W140) (001032) 6/93 - 98
If anyone can confirm the part number or whether the above list is correct or conclusive I would really appreciate the advice.
Thanks
Tim
I'm back!!!
A104 030 12 05 is the M103.987 DMFW
Optional with A104 030 10 05
Used to be A104 030 04 05
The early pre 95 C280 W202 M104.941 uses the same A104 030 10 05 DMFW
The A104 030 12 05 is used in these engines
M103.940/942/943/983/984/985/987
M104.980/981/990
The A104 030 10 05 is used in these engines
M104.941/942/943/944/992
Engine types as per previous request....
280E 2.8i 24v (W124) 10/92 – 93 M104.942
280TE 2.8i Kombi (T124) 10/92 – 93 M104.942
300CE 3.0i Coupe (C124) 9/89 – 93 M103.983
300E3.0i (W124) 9/89 – 9/92 M103.983
300E 3.0i 4-Matic (W124) 9/89 – 9/92 M103.985
300SE 2.8i 24v (W140) 3/93 – 9/93 M104.990
300TE 3.0i Kombi (T124) 9/89 – 7/93 M103.983
300TE 3.0i Kombi 4-Matic (T124) 9/89 – 7/93 M103.985
300TE 3.0i 24v Kombi (T124) 9/89 – 9/92 M104.980
E280 2.8i 24v (W124 6/93 - 96 M104.942
S280 2.8i 24v (W140) (001032) 6/93 - 98 M104.944
Gav
These are you M103/M104 engine varients for possible fitments...
ENGINE - FITMENT - MODEL - SERIES
M103.940 YES 260E 124
M103.941 NO 260SE 126
M103.942 YES 190E 2.6 201
M103.943 YES 260E 4 MATIC 124
M103.980 NO 300E 124 EARLY
M103.981 NO 300SE/SEL 126
M103.982 NO 300SL 107
M103.983 YES 300E/CE/TE 124
M103.984 YES 300SL 129
M103.985 YES 300E/TE 4 MATIC 124
M103.987 YES 300GE G300 463
M104.941 YES C280 202
M104.942 YES 280E/TE E280 124
M104.943 YES SL280 129
M104.944 YES S280 140
M104.945 NO E280 210
M104.980 YES 300E/CE/TE 24V 124
M104.981 YES 300SL 24V 129
M104.990 YES 300SE 140
M104.991 NO 320SL SL320 129
M104.992 YES 300E/CE/TE 124
M104.994 NO S320 140
M104.995 NO E320 210
M104.996 NO G320 463
Is yours giving you aggro?
Never knew petrols used a DMF,
Have you ruled out everything else? Might be worth a call to Damas ( Breakers) and asking if they have any, but have your list of engine codes ready.
Tim
I'm not too far from Damas at Clowne / Chesterfield if needs be and know Pete well
Gav
Hello Tim,
You are teaching an old "woofy" some new tricks. It is interesting to learn that, your resonance issue turns out to be a DMF.
On our Road test, did we not have the car running in neutral and the resonance still present?
I did not envisige that the W463 even used DMF!
I would like to learn who and how this fault had been located and isolated; please do tell, for I will need to edit my article on Vibrations; to add DMF as a possible cause to vibrations.
I think you can use a conventional fly wheel instead; the DMF were designed to have smoother power transition.
Jason,
Thanks for the that I will drop Damas a line and see if they have any in stock.
Regards
Tim
Gav,
If Damas can help I may ask you to try and negotiate a price as after all the flywheel may only be needed for a few months and I just want it to put this vibration to bed.
Hope you're on the mend with the back.
Tim
Rakesh,
On our road test the vibration/resonance was only there when in transmission.
The diagnostics was completed by 'Mr Kipling' .......you know who....The bloke who makes exceedingly good diesel conversions :-)
A number of tests were completed and tyres, bearings, transfer box and prop shafts were all ruled out.
Lets hope this is the case as I have searched and read so many articles on G Wagen vibrations with non ever really mentioning a DMFW as the problem. Perhaps it would be good to take a video clip of the resonance as this may help others who have similar problems that turn out to be non of the usual vibration causes.
Will keep you posted.
Regards
Tim
Hi Rakesh
All the 463's run Dual Mass Flywheels
Even the early models 200GE M102 ... 230GE M102 ... 300GE M103 ... 250GD OM602 ... 300GD OM603
In addition all the later models do to...
You are of course correct that it is possible to replace the Dual Mass Flywheel with a conventional solid Flywheel and the appropriate clutch type if required with no noticeable difference to the drive... a popular conversion on the early Sprinter vans in fact
Gav
Tim
If you need help at either Damas or Dronsfields give me a shout
We deliver to both every day or so....
Gav
is your steering damper ok when this fails it cause vibrations at the speed you have highlighted
Thanks PR for the advice.....but that was one of the first things done as when I bought the jeep it was advertised as just a steering damper to resolve the vibration!
Not being mechanically minded it was taken on board as purchase price didn't seem too bad...
I also replaced all new bearings, hub seals, brakes all round, wheels, tyres, brake master cylinder, engine mounts plus all the other bits such full service and a subtle color change in leather seats, new screen and seal plus body work touch ups etc etc
Now six months down the line and hoping eventually to have a diesel conversion to match some of the two Mr 'B's diesel porn showing on the other channel :-)
Hopefully, the DMF will solve the problem that may help others have a vibration free ride.
Let's hope this cures the problem.
Thanks to everyone on the forum for advice and ideas.
Regards
Tim
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Jason,
Yes my G gives an awful resonance/vibration at 45mph which has driven me completely nuts for 6 months.
I just need to find a secondhand one as eventually I will be going down the route of a diesel conversation and the cost of a new one would simply be dead money.
Tim