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Pretty certain its my old one...somehow missing 100k miles

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221752335340?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPa...

 

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hi

am I being naive but isn't this ilegal ?

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F11 AMG

According to the seller it is registered F11 AMG, I bid to £12.5K but did not like the look of it, or the advert !

 

Dave  ( still looking for a RHD, SWB, 463, Auto, Air Con )

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This one?

saved pic a long time ago when i was looking for my G
 

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Here is a link to a current thread that mentions this G, that thread is also now linked to this one. 

http://www.gwoa.co.uk/content/3-cars-which-one-help-appreciated

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Hi,

YEP ! It was I that linked the threads. because it was I who had posted this ebay add up to a guy who was looking for a model like it.

Obviously I have now alerted him to the fact that all is not as it seems ! Mind you I ain't never seen G yet that is as it seems ! They all appear to come home with a nasty dose of "G"Bola !!!

Mine's got it and I searched for a year viewing many dogs before opting for aht I had thought was a good un ! she is semi good but also semi poorly.

You gotta love these trucks huh ?

Neil.

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A customer of mine is selling a complete (manifold to tailpipe) stainless exhaust with twin sde exit,

If you have an interest pm me and I'll give you his number.

Regards

Gordon Diesel Oilsgerby

 

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Muck Hot !

PM sent,

Neil.

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master wrote:

Pretty certain its my old one...somehow missing 100k miles

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221752335340?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT 

 

 

 

from seller:

"...I've taken this G wagon in Px and is mint
All mots are with it verified with vosa so I'm not aware
Of all this on the members club it's been 
A well maintained G wagon I've got buyers on 
The car bids at £14500 which I'm not taking
The car also comes with Mercedes health report 
And with warranty I've done my checks
So I'm happy with it as I'm in the trade 
Thank you for your enquiry
...

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Master...you recognise all the paperwork shown in the EBAY ad ? did you keep all the tax discs ?..I see a GWOA logo in there to.

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Hi To me there is enough in the documents picture to help nail it for definite. There is the LPG certificate, The GWOA pack, The headed paper from Steve Redfern - which I take it is the specialist Mercedes finder/dealer based in London. The fact it has a tracker. So the chance (if we are looking for confirmation) of someone else having a similar spec, LPG converted, Steve Redfern connected, tracker fitted car, must be quite narrow... If indeed the above is true?? Just a thought.. Simon
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I think the docs shown only go back to 2002, so probably no info for 10 years between 1992 and 2002.

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well if no one here gets it, anyone want to take a pint of beer bet with me, he will sell it and we get the new owner on here when things go wrong? laugh

The greed of some people.

Spider1V

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Its my old one, the miles all add up as a trader purchased it from me with 159,000 and its all documented.

it also had a bunch of tax discs in the holder and sure the LPG cert.

I would say the wheels would have been worth more than a few thousand as were orginal with hardly used new tyres.

 

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Certainly, the AMG wheels are very nice!

Not sure how 100,000 miles or the leading "1" can be removed from the MOT certificates? Unless they are forged, but then still wouldn't tie-up with VOSA records?

 

 

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someone bought it for £13600....   frown   i wonder if the 100k miles that were hiding popped out from underneath the 'shiny' exterior......

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Looks like they didn't buy it !!!

Here she is again = http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-G-WAGON-300-GES-AUTO-AMG-STYLING-2013-LOOK-SWAP-G55-G63-GL-Defender-/221762157275?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item33a20dfadb

So, did the seller bid it up themselves ?

Or did the buyer smell a rat and pull out ?

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the seller's reply above said he was looking for more than 14,500

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I know it had a BIN price but thought the auction was running without reserve ! Some sellers can be silly ! Sometimes the first offer is the best offer and now with the added info around that it has lost the first 10years of it's history (conveniently) and the first 100k it is likely to be hanging about for a while.

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1 18/11/1992 0 Pre delivery Inspection
2 14/12/1992 1489 Service Mercedes Wales
3 10/03/1993 6831 Service Mercedes Wales
4 02/06/1993 61956 Service Mercedes Wales
5 10/09/1993 18154 Service Mercedes Wales
6 25/01/1994 24560 Service Mercedes Wales
7 08/06/1994 30123 Service Mercedes Wales
8 23/09/1994 36232 Service Mercedes Wales
9 22/02/1995 41102 Service Mercedes Wales
10 11/05/1995 46813 Service Mercedes Wales
11 23/10/1995 53881 Service Mercedes Wales
12 11/04/1996 60881 Service Mercedes Wales
13 12/09/1996 66351 Service Mercedes Wales
14 27/02/1997 70882 Service Mercedes Wales
15 15/08/1997 77447 Service Mercedes Wales
16 23/02/1998 83179 Service Mercedes Wales
17 24/08/1998 90102 Service Mercedes Wales
18 27/03/1999 95381 Service Mercedes Wales
19 15/11/1999 101409 Service Mercedes Swansea
20 18/03/2000 107322 Service Mercedes Bridgend
21 16/10/2000 114996 Service Mercedes Bridgend
22 30/03/2001 121252 Service Mercedes Bridgend
23 21/11/2001 3550 Service Mercedes Cardiff (new clock)
24 04/01/2003 19395 Service Mercedes Cardiff
  30/07/2003   Work Alton
  07/08/2003 23500 Work Independent
  12/09/2003 24017 Work Independent
  05/03/2004 25516 Work Independent
25 28/09/2004 28747 Service Independent Wiltshire
  30/09/2004 28747 Work Independent Wiltshire
  22/12/2004 30716 Work Independent Wiltshire
26 21/01/2005 31530 Service Independent Wiltshire
  21/05/2005 31530 Work Independent Wiltshire
  18/03/2005 33267 Work Independent Wiltshire
  04/04/2005   Work Independent Wiltshire
27 14/05/2007 43215 Service Independent Wiltshire
  11/09/2007 45854 Work Independent Tilsbury
  21/02/2008 47496 Work Independent Tilsbury
  03/09/2008   New exhaust system to accommodate LPG
  21/02/2011 55059 LPG service
  09/03/2011 55723 Work Independent Surrey
  19/03/2011   LPG work
  28/03/2011 56188 Work Independent Surrey
  29/06/2011 57185 Work Independent Wimbledon
28 15/09/2011 58167 Service Independent Maidenhead
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MOT Records  
20/11/2002 16851
10/02/2004 25485
21/01/2005 31530
01/03/2007 38555
13/08/2007 45057
21/07/2008 49632
08/07/2010 54543
07/07/2011 57298
11/04/2014 59600
   
   
   
   
Current Mileage 59600
Old Clock Mileage 121252
Total Mileage 180852
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Sunday Reading for you...

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master wrote:

1 18/11/1992 0 Pre delivery Inspection
2 14/12/1992 1489 Service Mercedes Wales
3 10/03/1993 6831 Service Mercedes Wales
4 02/06/1993 61956 Service Mercedes Wales
5 10/09/1993 18154 Service Mercedes Wales
6 25/01/1994 24560 Service Mercedes Wales
7 08/06/1994 30123 Service Mercedes Wales
8 23/09/1994 36232 Service Mercedes Wales
9 22/02/1995 41102 Service Mercedes Wales
10 11/05/1995 46813 Service Mercedes Wales
11 23/10/1995 53881 Service Mercedes Wales
12 11/04/1996 60881 Service Mercedes Wales
13 12/09/1996 66351 Service Mercedes Wales
14 27/02/1997 70882 Service Mercedes Wales
15 15/08/1997 77447 Service Mercedes Wales
16 23/02/1998 83179 Service Mercedes Wales
17 24/08/1998 90102 Service Mercedes Wales
18 27/03/1999 95381 Service Mercedes Wales
19 15/11/1999 101409 Service Mercedes Swansea
20 18/03/2000 107322 Service Mercedes Bridgend
21 16/10/2000 114996 Service Mercedes Bridgend
22 30/03/2001 121252 Service Mercedes Bridgend
23 21/11/2001 3550 Service Mercedes Cardiff (new clock)
24 04/01/2003 19395 Service Mercedes Cardiff
  30/07/2003   Work Alton
  07/08/2003 23500 Work Independent
  12/09/2003 24017 Work Independent
  05/03/2004 25516 Work Independent
25 28/09/2004 28747 Service Independent Wiltshire
  30/09/2004 28747 Work Independent Wiltshire
  22/12/2004 30716 Work Independent Wiltshire
26 21/01/2005 31530 Service Independent Wiltshire
  21/05/2005 31530 Work Independent Wiltshire
  18/03/2005 33267 Work Independent Wiltshire
  04/04/2005   Work Independent Wiltshire
27 14/05/2007 43215 Service Independent Wiltshire
  11/09/2007 45854 Work Independent Tilsbury
  21/02/2008 47496 Work Independent Tilsbury
  03/09/2008   New exhaust system to accommodate LPG
  21/02/2011 55059 LPG service
  09/03/2011 55723 Work Independent Surrey
  19/03/2011   LPG work
  28/03/2011 56188 Work Independent Surrey
  29/06/2011 57185 Work Independent Wimbledon
28 15/09/2011 58167 Service Independent Maidenhead

is your mileage typing correct on service number 4... 61k?

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I imagine that would be a typo take off the number 1
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Hi all Might be worth noting the relisting gives a clear explanation and admission of the clock change and restating the mileage as 180k. He also thanks the previous owner (Master?) for contacting him pointing out the error and providing him with the original 23yr old service book. So looks like a timely intervention. My only other thought is after buying a badly cared for 1985 460, the asking price is all very relative as you can easily spend £5k bringing an unloved lower mileage car back to life (believe me I know) and that's without body work or interior works.... And this is a 463. As everyone on here always says buy on condition, physical detailed inspection and proven history, including, I would advocate, ringing some of the previous owners and servicing garages. I had an A6 with 165,000 on it. Looked and drove like a new car because it was serviced beyond spec on the dot. Good spot by Master, and may yet prove a good buy for someone fully armed! Simon
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I sold the 463 back in August 2014 to a trader who pretty quickly put it back on eBay for sale/px.

All documentation was given with the service book so not sure who if any held onto it and declared mileage/history from the new clock...(Nice try I say)

I mean 21 years old with 60k on with 8+ owners including one in at a muddy field in N Ireland at some point surely someone could not be considering it to be correct.

Tidy 4x4, nether less drove fine for me in my few years of ownership including the 120 mile journey from Warrington where I purchased it...sadly lack of garage space and not enough time for me to really enjoy it....17 year old, 15 year old daughter (gone 21) and 8 year old Son and she who must be obeyed

The writing is on the cards for the other classic wannabe beetle...

Hopefully a purchaser now goes in without any blinkers...I still believe it will fetch anything between £10k-£15k if the number plate is chucked in.

Tomorrow is a new day who will govern us and make the next 4 years fruitful??

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Seems to me that the seller made too much of pointing out that the mileage was VOSA verified, which of course it would be on the post 2002 MOTs, and with the older paperwork conveniently not available to suggest anything different.

...he who "doth protest too much."...

 

Still, nice looking car - in the pictures, any way.

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Hi Master

What size is/was the spare ?

Did you paint the wood, and when you had it did the air con work perfectly ?

Did you get the diff locks and lights sorted ?

Thanks

Dave

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Spare was an original standard wheel

Aircon was non existence I mean did not have it  cheeky

Diff lock were not used by me as never went offroad...My Audi and VW dont work on 3 switches using a PIN control!!

 

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That's odd, the seller says Air Con, and the knob is on the dash ?

In an earlier post when you first got it, you mentioned about the diff locks, did they ever work ?

Thanks

Dave

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I could not figure it out but remember there were orange lights.

Sorry it was one function that I did not pay much attention and hoped the buyer to it was just as clueless as me..lucky for me it was a  trade sale!!