3rd brake light retrofit

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RichS2891
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Apologies if in wrong forum, not sure if its classed as electrical, body or modifications.

Has any retrofitted a 3rd brake light to an older 463. Mines a 1993 and hence does not have one, and I do quite fancy having one

I believe can get on from  here, but its horrendously expensive.

http://fourbyfourclub.com/W463ElectricalParts/W463rd%20BrakeLight.htm

Are they any cheaper alternatives that look right ?

 

 

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Re: 3rd brake light retrofit

RichS2891 wrote:

Apologies if in wrong forum, not sure if its classed as electrical, body or modifications.

Has any retrofitted a 3rd brake light to an older 463. Mines a 1993 and hence does not have one, and I do quite fancy having one

I believe can get on from  here, but its horrendously expensive.

http://fourbyfourclub.com/W463ElectricalParts/W463rd%20BrakeLight.htm

Are they any cheaper alternatives that look right ?

 

 

Blimey!  That is one expensive www!

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Re: 3rd brake light retrofit

The 3rd brake light does not necessarily need to be an original factory type. As mentioned above, you could use a red LED strip as commonly sold on ebay. Needs to be close to the rear glass to avoid reflection back into the car.

You'll need to remove the rear left paneling (easy - just pull off the door edging strip and slide out the panel). you can then feed a wire, connected to the left brake-light, up and through to the rear panel area. From there, it goes through the cable conduit to the rear door and then up to the wiper enclosure.

 

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having replaced my broken flexy cable conduit recently you may find the conduit it packed full of wires for the heated rear window, central locking, rear fog light(460) ...and will be tight to add an extra wire..so will need to carefully thread and lube up steel coat-hanger through the conduit and pull the wire through... the conduit goes in a 90 degree loop in the rear quarter panel and is attached to a spring and bracket which pulls on the conduit to feed it in through the bodywork when you close the door... so its longer than you think... I decided to use LED bulbs for my stop/ tail lights instead...which are very effective and much brighter than originals...   

a high level stop light is useful... you might want to bear in mind that the 460 fog light fitted to the rear door is sprung in its holder as all that door slamming can affect bulb life considerably...especially ones on circuit boards like LED's  the window rubbers may act as a slight damper... just a thought!

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Where did you buy your LED bulbs from. Where they just "plug and play" with no alterations to bulb holders.

They sound like a wise upgrade.

 

 

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Panzer,

They are available all over the internet ! Yes just plug em in buddy !

They are just T10 led "lamps". (lamps is what the trade call what normal folk call "Bulbs")

The ones in your dash can be swapped direct for T5 lamps. (bit smaller) it'll light up like a christmas tree pal ! Looks the bizzo.

An example = http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161659173043?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

 

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/BAY15D-1157-White-Brake-Light/dp/B00HCBF06E/ref=... Mine are like these!

 

as easy as changing a bulb

 

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Be aware that many LED bulbs / lamps are advertised as' CAN-bus' which is a bit of a mis-noma, but means that they will not give you failure warnings on the lamp-failure detection systems in many modern cars. However, to do this, they incorporate a large parallel resistor, to fool the lamp-failure detection circuit into thinking you have a normal filament lamp fitted, which has a much lower resistance and draws more current than an LED. For G-Wagens built prior to around Year 2001, these 'CAN-bus' types are NOT required and the benefit is that you don't waste power in heating the unnecessary parallel resistor.... and, without this built-in resistor, they cost less too. (and there is more surface area available for LED's)

 

[ In the two examples posted above, the first ones (5 watts) have the built-in resistor and the second one, not. ]

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: 3rd brake light retrofit

I would like to replace the rear indicator (12v 21w), reverse (12v 21W) and tail combined brake light (12v 5w and 21w) bulbs  on a 460 - exactly which led bulbs do I need. I think one of them has offset pins.

With the instrument dash leds are they dimmable?

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  do not know about the bulbs but i am dimmable?

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-1156-Bulb-50-SMD-Car-LED-Backup-Reverse-Ta...

 

these are the reverse bulbs (above) for my 460  parallel pins also ok for indicators im told (my indicators are still ordinary bulbs)

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4W-T25-BAY15D-1157-Pure-White-60-SMD-LED-Tail-...

these are the stop tail bulbs.