22" on a W463 with larger center bore . . .

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Hi all, thinking about to upgrade the rims on my G. I know original center bore is 84.1 but will i be able to use 22" wheels were center bore is 108.0 ? Will the bolts (5x130) align the wheels ?
Br. David  

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Re: 22" on a W463 with larger center bore . . .

Nope, you'll need spigot rings, or your G will be undriveable,  what car has 5x130  with 108 bore?

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Re: 22" on a W463 with larger center bore . . .

Oki i see, its from a Ford truck

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Re: 22" on a W463 with larger center bore . . .

Are you sure they're 5x130 because that's a new one on me, I've checked and I can't find any ford wheels that pcd. A lot of fords are 5x108 pcd

​dont buy them unless your sure. Also 22" rims will give you a crap ride, no off-roading .... Not even driving up kerbs,  and they are very prone to cracking.  I've had some very upset rangerover owners with knackered wheels and no solution

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Re: 22" on a W463 with larger center bore . . .

You need to check the pcd of the wheel bolts. pcd is pitch circle diameter. If the wheels fit with the bolt pattern all is good

You can get some spigot support ring machined to fit snuggly for little money

These spigot rings will support the axle flange to the bore of wheel. The bolts will do the rest

Try the wheels with no rings and drive car and check for clearances etc. It will be fine . If your happy get some rings made to be a perfect combination . Many cars i see depend on just the bolts and spacers or spigot rings are missing with no ill effects. Yes they support wheel a bit but the bolts should center the wheel well . i have seen this many times with no spigot rings and they are ok. Saying this i would like spigots present on my car or proper fitting wheels

Odd sizes i see?????????????//////// that is not what is common

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Re: 22" on a W463 with larger center bore . . .

In the case of a wheel the bolts are there to provide the 'clamp' force, the centre bore 'collar' ensures correct alignment.

In general bolts are never considered a means to align significant rotating masses. That's because:

#1 It isn't accurate enough (small degrees of run-out lead to a very unbalanced mass on something as big as a wheel) and

#2 they aren't designed with sheer forces in mind (perpendicular to their axis).

Although wheel bolts attempt to overcome that with the conical shape of the head, its not something I'd rely on. If you really must use these wheels then you could have a machine shop turn a set of spacing rings , fit those over the collar and then the wheels to those (for reasons not relating to wheel alignment I'm doing exactly that for another G project)

On a slightly related topic its just worth saying that most wheel bolts are only 8.8 rated steel which is why its very important to always use a torque wrench to tighten them correctly for the correct amount of preload (which is whay stops them coming undone.. the mistake that people often make is in assuming that 'tighter is better' - its not, by doing so you stretch the bolt (bad) or hub thread (potentially worse) and although they might stay done up that time you've permanently weakened the fastener and would not want to re-use it again.

 

 

 

 

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Re: 22" on a W463 with larger center bore . . .

Hi all and thanks for the feedback. Yes its definitely Ford wheels . . .
But i think i´ll agreethat 22" are too big for my 300GD, thinking about 18" or perhaps 20".

Thanks again for the feedback much appreciated :-)
David