2013 G63 Annoying cabin noise.
Hello,
I have just taken delivery of my 2013 G63 and I am very happy with it indeed. (this is my 2nd G).
I have noticed however that at low speed there is an annoying rattle coming from what I think is both the driver door and the front passenger door, passengers have noticed it as well. It's best described as kinda like plastic moving around if that makes any sense.
Any how I wondered if anyone had any tips or advice on what might be causing it or how to get rid of it.
thanks
Andrew
When driving, place your finger lengthways on the inside of the door shut-line, touching both the door and the B pillar.
If you feel and up and down movement of he door with respect to the pillar, your door lock catches need adjusting. The noise you hear may be due to excess up and down movement, causing the door rubbers to squeak..
The door trim on the post 2000 G's is not as well screwed together as on the older ones so that may well rattle too. Check that all screws and clip fasteners are present on the door cards.
Arni,
I have performed the test and whilst it is only slight I do detect some movement and I'm quite convinced the door rubbers are causing the squeak. Is it a simple job to adjust the door lock catches or would you suggest make a trip to the MB dealer here in San Francisco?
Andrew.
Well, it's quite simple. You need to loosen the retaining screws on the door lock sticker (the catch plate on the B pillar) and slide it upwards it up by a mm or 1/16" or so and re-tighten and test. It's also possible to inadvertently move the striker plate further in or out, as well as up and down, once you have loosened the screws. Therefore, loosen the screws just enough that you can slide the striker plate (catch) up with some small taps from a wooden mallet. If you loosen it too much it may move too much. However, you can use a washable marker or piece of tape to mark its original position.The door edge should close slightly proud of the body by about 1/16" to avoid wind noise.
BMW sells a seal conditioner called Gummi Pflege Rubber Care, which helps lubricate and preserve rubber door seals on cars. You can also find in on amazon if you search for 'Gummi Pflege ' This can help with rubber squeaks.
Some reviews:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gummi-Pflege-Rubber-Stick-100ml/product-reviews/B007TNOQDI
If the door strikers are properly adjusted so that there is no up and down movement of the doors when driving, the squeaks should go, and no need to use the above product, other than for some added protection.
Hey Arnie - thanks for that tip on Gummi Pflege Rubber Care. Looks ideal and has very good customer reviews so have ordered and will use on my G and also on my S Class.
I have exactly the same problem on my G55. It sounds like the back trim or the rear door is squeaking. I've been meaning to get it sorted. Maybe a job for this weekend.
The rear door has a double-wedge support block below the door-lock striker plate. These can wear or move, especially with a heavy spare wheel on the rear door. It's likely that it's this support that requires adjustment or replacement. Early ones used to be metal with moulded rubber inserts; newer ones are made of whitish nylon-type plastic.
Arnie,
thanks again for the instructions. I took a quick peek at the catch plate and before I loosen anything I wanted to share a photo of the catch plate as it did not seem to be adjustable, you can see the photos here (click here)
Would you be kind enough to take a quick look and let me know if I am on the right track
Thanks in advance.
Andrew
On the first of your pictures, the two philips screws at the top and the Allen, hex screw beneath need to be loosened and then the whole catch plate can be moved and adjusted
First mark the current position of the catch with some masking tape.
You will need an appropriately large screwdriver, which fits perfectly on the screws, so as not to damage the heads. A 3/8" or 1/4" socket set with screwdriver and Allen key bits would be useful here.
If you look carefully at the lock through the gap between the door and the body, you will see how the lock mechanism engages with the striker catch-plate as you close the door. When closed, the round pin on the catch should be engaged in the semi-circular notch of the rotating lock mechanism.
The actual engagement surfaces, however, are the wedge-shaped profiles of the lock and the striker catch-plate. by moving the plate upwards a tiny amount, the weight of the door on that side will be better supported, reducing any up and down movement when driving.
From Benzworld with similar issues they swear by this;
Door grease MB Cream # A000 989 84 51 = £35 a few years back.
You get a little cappuccino worth glass jar of white grease.. which does work.
In some cases, the rubber material in the door lock wedges can deteriorate and even delaminate from its metal covering strips. The wedge will then not properly secure the door from movement within the striker catch-plate. Check the wedge surface and that the rubber beneath the metal slide-pates (arrows in pic)
problem solved.
Thanks to Arnie for all the help, much appreciate.
After a very minor adjustment to the door catches and some lube on the door seals everything is bliss full again in the cabin.
Another point to note, was that the black plastic door trims were sitting less than snug, addressing that I think helped as well.
Hey,
Did you get it sorted?
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Arnie,
Thank you for this very helpful advice. I will check this and report back.